Question:
Do you believe illegal immigration enforcement should occur at schools?
*** The Earth has Hadenough***
2008-04-18 18:44:02 UTC
Or should they be overlooked for the children's sake?
39 answers:
DAR
2008-04-19 05:51:52 UTC
I think legal presence should be checked with the parents when the kids enroll. That is hardly revolutionary. They already check to make sure you are in the district you live in so that even American parents can't take their kids to a better school in a different district than the one where they live.



If you subsidize it, more will come. That is what subsidies do.



Worse, no one who lives in a border state can truthfully pretend that the huge numbers of illegally present, non English speaking kids with parents with low educations themselves is not greatly harming the quality of education for our own kids. It is a very basic budget, training and facilities matter with numbers this huge.

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and to those who say it's not the kids' fault...It's not my kids' fault we don't live in Beverly Hills, but my kids are still not entitled to go to those schools there...
luff
2016-09-08 03:27:33 UTC
This is humorous how racism is being proven by means of many right here, simply admit it you hate hispanics due to the fact they're taking your dream task from McDonalds. Look we are living in a nation in which in the event you desire you'll be able to pass to school and get a bigger task then those immigrants, and you're right here arguing approximately they taking your janitor task. Come on develop up and feel logically, becasue the vast majority of individuals begging for cash are white, which imply they're local born, unlawful immigrants paintings their asses off. And the one rationale why tis economic climate remains to be there may be becasue immigrants. They paintings the roles that any individual so lazy such as you, who's answering those questions. The borders shouldnt be near, becasue we have now essentially the most numerous nation on this international, and simply if you happen to didnt pass to tuition, this nation is construct at the backs of immigrants. So rather of being racist, pass practice to McDonalds earlier than an unlawful immigrant takes your task and you've got not anything else to do however reply this question and whinge.
eastacademic
2008-04-20 08:22:06 UTC
I cant believe all the venom here.



Certainly we all agree that our constitution is the final say on this. Every state law proposing what you say has been deemed unconstitutional.



Too many people want a simple answer for a complex problem.
Dragonvainer
2008-04-19 01:26:47 UTC
I am still at a stance of how did I get here in the first place?



Where was the illegalities when the forefathers of this great nation. so called, ransacked the natural American Indian off of this continent. Matters were not so kind also in the southern hemisphere as the Spanish Conquistadors ransacked through there. And how about the French through Canada.



America is free! Sure we should have some way of communicating so everyone is on the same page. South Americans have a tendousy to speak a few languages to make it, Brazil is such a country.



Our schooling is for the now American citizen. If an illegal would want to put there child through school and are not paying taxes through the legal channels, they should pay for their childs education, starting with language! We can not teach the deaf and if they do not understand then they are deaf to any teaching. Language should also be taught so that we are able to understand others as we would expect them to understand us. Every child should have the opportunity to learn. What they do with that education?
Hold em Rox
2008-04-21 07:56:21 UTC
OK, NO I do not want ICE or INS going in and taking kids out of the class rooms. No need for that at all.



These kids shouldn't even be allowed to enroll IMO, that's where the enforcement SHOULD begin, but unfortunately as some have pointed out the courts don't see it that way.

I am under the impression that many here don't realize the cost to the taxpayers to educate these illegals. If they did they might just change their tunes.



Citizens need to have their voices heard and make Washington get it that we are tired of footing the bill for people who are here illegally!!!



I see jealous McPODDY is making an appearance......
2008-04-20 10:29:16 UTC
yes, these illegals and children of illegals DO bring down the educational system, then they get free lunches which are federally funded, their parents are criminals and the apple does not fall far from the tree, these children are taught criminal behavior at any ones expense very early, unfortunately these criminal parents are not held responsible for these teachings. many teachers are quiting the education field because they do not want to try and teach a class that has illegals in it. their parents put them in this situation so we do not want to hear whiners say, they are only children or they are innocent of parents wrong-doings. then the parents should be tried for child abuse and neglect charges.

send the whole family packing!!!!
no name 4 you
2008-04-19 10:53:33 UTC
Tough question. You always go for the heart of things.

Looks like trolls and fake ids on a comment still can't stand your femininity, you got what it takes. "Your all women and what a tiger!! "I think that is who Rox called Mc Poddy. Or a friend look alike. Good name reminds me of toilet. And it suits them well. You can bet the same people are lapping in it or just more ids.

I think the law should be enforce everywhere. We would pick up kids on the street if they were breaking the law. Even if they haven't been taught better. Than we would go to the parents. I don't think we should be unkind to them in the process. How will they learn right from wrong if someone doesn't step in? It's obvious the parents don't seem to care if it suits their wants. I like the answer their kids can't go to Beverly Hills School just because they want them too. I think many would like an education other than where they are at. Once again they are not entitle to it and the law should apply everywhere. Someone mention there is a law saying they can, that might be and so it is followed. But I think it should be stopped at enrollment. Its crooks (our government) allowing more criminal action. And that doesn't surprise me. Birds of a feather flock together.
alice-c t
2008-04-25 10:35:31 UTC
overlook for all the children..not only those who are in school by need for child care while illegal parent works...but because of how that type of action would be seen by our own children[they would not understand ]......my vote is NO.
2008-04-19 05:40:01 UTC
I think it should be done at beginning before entry. The American people do pay for this and it is costly. Sorry to say there should not be any free rides, we can't afford it. If others want an education, they need to pay for it just like everyone does. Or self-educate those who want to learn will. And I think everyone here should pay tax on schools not just homeowners.



Great question that makes us think about what we will overlook and why. I admire an intelligent women who knows the heart side of things and the questions to ask.



The comment by McPoddy is way off base. Sounds like the jealous obsessed again. Profile says ""I think someones a fake and it ain't me" What a joke, as imitation as they come and the whole net knows it. Some should read a question than reread so they might understand and than try answering the question using what little sense they have. Get real yourself you have more to work on than most. This goes with the question too, because of the heart in it. Great question it shows a real heart something Mc Poddy wouldn't understand. Because IT is so FAKE . Parasites of the board and world.
Richard
2008-04-19 07:23:42 UTC
We should enforce the LAW everywhere, school, work, home, the streets, everywhere. If you don’t think so why don't you let the drug dealer have a place where they can break the law and have no fear of being arrested?



Sorry if you break the law you should be afraid of being found out, the only people who are to blame are the parents who brought their children here illegally. They should go home and come back legally.
2008-04-19 15:07:52 UTC
I think not! Those children cannot help that their parents are illegal. And I think it is the fault of the school to take them in. So the school is responsible, not the children. Here in Holland they did the same. They went with a few police officers in a classroom to take an illegal child out. The children were traumatized by this all., not to mention the state of the child who they took with them. Personally I think I would have kicked the police his ***, because it is psychological damaging for the child. And when there is a drug runner here who bothers and threatens people they do nothing, but a child they are brave enough to arrest. I am getting so tired of this all. And then those fakes here who answer these questions, MC poddy I presume..? Try first to answer under your real ID, instead of hiding behind a fake one, so we can see who we dealing with. But I think they do not have the guts.
Coasty
2008-04-19 07:39:50 UTC
A criminal act is a criminal act period. The age of the malefactor has no bearing on the offense. Illegal Aliens should be arrested as soon as identified and deported. Age, economic status, or family does not matter. The law should be blind to this sort of thing. It was when I was a kid and still should be.
2008-04-19 01:37:50 UTC
At school when the cops pull over their dad for drunk driving or driving without a license or insurance, when the cops are called when dad or grandpa beats up mom and or grandma, when drugs are found on them, when cops arrest them for gang activity, when cops catch them stealing or any other crime that is committed by illegals. Depot them when they have fake documents or steal a car or any number of things cops let go without a thought for US citizens rights.
Troll Hunter Too
2008-04-19 07:04:08 UTC
Y E S !!!!!



illegal immigrant

n. an alien (non-citizen) who has entered the United States without government permission or stayed beyond the termination date of a visa.

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WE, as LEGAL American Citizens, should NOT be supporting the people that have "entered withhout government permission".



IF, WE will STOP the Socialist/Communist/Liberal hand-outs and / or the "reasons" for them coming here, they will NOT be coming here!!!

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I favor stiff fines for employers who hire illegal immigrants, a security fence along our borders, and a denial of citizenship to children born here of parents who are in the U.S. illegally. I oppose any form of amnesty. If people from OTHER countries can patiently await the proper procedure and paperwork, why should our "neighbors" get "special treatment??

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TLB
2008-04-18 20:01:54 UTC
Plyer v. Doe



In the early 1980s, lawyers for a group of children of migrant farm workers challenged a Texas law which allowed local school districts to refuse to educate children who were not U.S. citizens.The U.S. Supreme Court said that the law was unconstitutional, and ordered the state to provide an educational program for all children, citizens and non-citizens, living in the state. The Court said that the right to an education was too important to the child and to society as a whole to allow such discrimination.



Appellants argue at the outset that undocumented aliens, because of their immigration status, are not "persons within the jurisdiction" of the State of Texas, and that they therefore have no right to the equal protection of Texas law. We reject this argument. Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is surely a "person" in any ordinary sense of that term. Aliens, even aliens whose presence in this country is unlawful, have long been recognized as "persons" guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.

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It is the law, (I think that it is a good law as well) but that law also gives us all the more reason to secure our borders...
2008-04-19 15:29:36 UTC
Again these illegals, you know what....shoot them at the border problem solved. And for that fake MC Donald's menu, fast food I think..instead of going to Rox and say she wants you, and questioning Haddie's feminine side, be so brave to come out under the real you. Do not crawl behind a fake name. It shows the way you think. We call those people creepy crawlers. Big tough guy.....although I am pretty sure you are a girl....it shows you are full of issues. The biggest one is a jealous issue. And I did look at your profile, all is set to private. That shows how tough you really are...laugh. And you said there, "I think someones a fake and it ain't me. ", well you are as fake as they come inside and out..!!!!!!! Have a great evening.
2008-04-18 21:10:15 UTC
YES!!



A major draw of the illegal aliens is the schools their kids will get. Mexico doesn't offer such schools, but as the illegal aliens have begun to go home, the Mexican Government seems to be changing their mind.



It is ENORMOUSLY expensive to educate non-taxpayers. Many illegal aliens are just that too, and more, welfare reciepients.



No. We should not educate the illegal aliens.
2008-04-19 05:37:02 UTC
yes ! at school and home. and work place, every where! the child knows there mother and father are illegal, and why not take a whole load of beans, there use to riding in the back of a truck!
2008-04-18 22:51:55 UTC
Plyler vs Doe...



TLB is absolutely correct in every acceptance of this court decision. How, then, could any disagreement be justifiable?



First, recall that this "Supreme Court" consists of 9/300,000,000 persons...quite the imbalance to be sure.



Secondly, those in dissent deferred to the intent of the 14th Amendment (which is stated clearly, for the record, within the Congressional Globe of the 39th Congress).



Third in line is my concern (as I'm confident TLB will agree) for costs ... "demands for payment", essentially, delivered to tax-payers for all expenses deriving from the PVD decision.



I stand firm with TLB on one thing: Kids are NOT to be held accountable for the disingenious timing of their parents. Teach them, yes. But, seal the borders ASAP!~



All this considered, (and done so, conscientiously) there may come a time of finality... A threshold over which tax-payers' limits are breached; a grey area so heavy with expense that the very consideration of it finally strikes us (the citizenry) as a thing no less foolish than perpetual motion by the over-balanced wheel.



My answer then: Don't bug them AT the school. Wait till they've gotten on the bus. Chances of survival, there, are minimal anyway.



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2008-04-18 19:20:34 UTC
It's one of the few places I believe should be considered untouchable. We complain about all the stupid people here and the world , and even though they should not be here, it is a way to reduce the number. The problem is that there shear number and political power has diminished our school system. Schools are now holding pens, rather than a center of learning. I was horrified to see what was going on in school meetings. Immigrants would come to school meetings in foreign military attire demanding that we dumb down our school system so their kids would not look stupid.
2008-04-18 19:14:40 UTC
I think that the children should be rounded up and removed just like anyone else. The children are not at fault. It is the parents that brought them along on a criminal act! Be very nice to the children but any parent who involves their children in a criminal act should be booted across the border.
joss
2008-04-24 16:30:00 UTC
No
2008-04-18 21:21:39 UTC
Of course. Kick the doors in, goose-step down the hallways and drag them out of the classrooms. They have no right to be here anyway, and MY tax dollars going to support the schools!! After we do that lets send all those children in Texas back to their parents to be married off and pregnant at 13, and lets spend more tax dollars giving them magnificant homes, clothes, food stamps and welfare like we have been doing for years. How could we expect a man with 50 children to support them all? Welfare fraud is illegal and so is sex with underage girls, but as long as my tax money supports American criminals that's ok with me.
born2run
2008-04-18 19:09:04 UTC
If you mean during enrollment, then yes. The parents should be able to provide ss#, birth certificate, or other document that shows the child is a citizen/alien of the U.S.
2008-04-18 19:47:23 UTC
Yes I do, and so does my 9 year old son who told me tonight that he is sick of this new kid shoving him around and punching him.



I told him to tell the other kid to back off or he would go to the teacher.



He told me it wouldn't do any good since the new kid only talks spanish and can't understand him.



Guess I will be going to the school.
2008-04-18 22:03:57 UTC
Yes,immigration enforcement should occur everywhere.
georgestraitfan
2008-04-18 20:58:35 UTC
It should happen everywhere across America---anywhere where there is an illegal alien.
scottyhog
2008-04-18 18:53:13 UTC
Most defiantly! They crowed our schools and bring down test scores because most of them do not understand the language. That forces the teacher to spend more time with them and that makes the rest of the students in the class fall behind
specialK
2008-04-18 18:51:30 UTC
It would be against the law. It won't and cannot happen.
Marine5
2008-04-19 12:01:16 UTC
Yes I do...
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2008-04-18 19:13:24 UTC
No, we want everyone educated regardless of their citizenship status. To register for school you have to present a soc. sec. card and birth certificate anyway. . .
2008-04-18 18:59:31 UTC
Yes I do, deport the rest of the family too!
2008-04-18 18:57:33 UTC
Absolutely!! Why should OUR tax dollars be WASTED on kids that should NOT even be here??!! That's just one MORE way that illegals sc rew us!!
2008-04-18 19:13:14 UTC
it should. the law should apply everywhere.
2008-04-18 19:05:03 UTC
YES.



Who in their right mind would bring their kids ...to the BANK they were robbing!?



Round em' up and send em' home.
Trophywife
2008-04-18 18:59:42 UTC
Hello Love



No I don't believe enforcement should occur at schools. I'm in touch with my feminine side on this. Have you found yours yet?
watergirl363
2008-04-18 18:53:03 UTC
no 100% no

it is not there falt

they still need an education
Dirty Martini
2008-04-18 18:51:29 UTC
It should happen when school is out, at home or otherwise in public. It should not happen during school hours, on school premises.
2008-04-18 18:47:57 UTC
The children didn't do anything wrong. They were just born brown.


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