Question:
What do you say about this?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
What do you say about this?
Seven answers:
2007-05-02 00:55:13 UTC
Every person for illegal immigration should be forced to compensate these innocent people who have had their social security numbers and identities stolen by these illegals who invade our country with no care who they hurt. They should have to not only compensate the money lost from their social security accounts after they are zeroed out once the fraud is detected, but every last cent the victims had to pay taking time off work, every cent that went into photocopying documentation, every cent that went towards lawyers and gas driving somewhere to get this mess taken care of, and any other financial expenditure the victim had to cough up. They should also be forced to compensate the victims for the emotional hardships endured. They should have to compensate for the money and time spent trying to straighten out their credit ratings after these illegals have ruined them. They should be forced to compensate these victims for every single hardship related to what these illegals have inflicted upon these people. Currently, the system does not provide any compensation at all and a lot of people are never restored to previctimization status. Oh but these pro-illegals claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime that hurts no one and that we are whining when we complain.



'Total purgatory' for taxpayers

Frustration can mount for victims of this kind of fraud. Eventually, the government agencies involved do catch up with the legitimate consumers; but often, not until they are looking for money. Victims can have trouble getting disability or unemployment benefits. The government doesn’t try to alert victims of their victimizations, they usually find out by chance when they’ve been victimized further.

Other victims find the Internal Revenue Service on their backs, looking for payment of back taxes for wages earned by their imposters. Some see refunds held up by the confusion; others see their wages garnished.

Victims find themselves in a financial nightmare. All those imitators make a mess out of their work histories, Social Security benefits records and credit reports. Victims are haunted by bills and creditors. Victims receive threatening letters from the IRS, asking to pay taxes on money earned by these illegal Mexican colonizers. Victims are told to re-pay unemployment benefits they had received, after the government discovers they were "working" while drawing benefits when it was really these illegal Mexican invaders all along.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6814673



You think these illegals care that they are hurting innocent lives? Their loyalty is to Mexico. They proved that during one of the first rallies when they took down the American flag, hung up the Mexican flag, and then hung the American flag upside down underneath it. THAT is how they feel about America.



http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004869.htm





Then the people who want to appease them pull out the excuses about how people who are not even alive now, and haven't been for hundreds of years, 'stole' the land from the American Indians. Even American politicians are carrying out this traitorous attack on our sovereignty! If this keeps up, the United States of America will become a 3rd world country, just like Mexico! Mexico's problems are not the fault of Americans, but they are becoming our problems because the Mexicans are invading us and bringing their problems with them.



The illegals make up about 5 % of the work force. The unemployment rate is about 4.5%. Keep in mind that the unemployment rate does NOT represent everyone who is unemployed. It only counts those who are collecting unemployment. Everyone else's plight is ignored. The unemployment rate if everyone was counted would be tremendous. We do NOT have a shortage of labor, we have a large surplus. The more illegals that come in and take our jobs at minimum wage or less (often less) puts more and more Americans out of a job. Most of these Americans are never counted in the unemployment rate if they do not manage to get unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits are hard to receive.



Illegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits.



The illegals get welfare by stealing social security numbers and identities and using false papers. Therefore, the time limits under the Clinton welfare reform doesn't apply to them because once the time limit is up, all they have to do is get new stolen social security numbers and identities and false papers and start all over again. American citizens who draw welfare are limited to the time limits from the welfare reform and are then cut off. American citizens who fall on hard times and have to turn to welfare assistance have a harder time finding jobs that pay enough to live off of because the illegals have taken jobs and depressed the wages of those jobs still available to American citizens. Therefore, those in the lower working class are highly unlikely to ever be able to "work their way up" since the opportunities have been stolen which will entrap these people into poverty with little to no way out.



My family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.



They not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them.



I am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years.



"Mexico is waging war on the U.S. through mass immigration illegal and legal, through the assertion of Mexican national claims over the U.S., and through the subversion of its laws and sovereignty, all having the common end of bringing the southwestern part of the U.S. under the control of the expanding Mexican nation, and of increasing Mexico’s political and cultural influence over the U.S. as a whole.



Cultural imperialism



We experience Mexico’s assault on our country incrementally—as a series of mini-crises, each of which calls forth ever-renewed debates and perhaps some tiny change of policy. Because it has been with us so long and has become part of the cultural and political air we breathe, it is hard for us to see the deep logic behind our “immigration problem.” Focused as we are on border incursions, border enforcement, illegal alien crime, guest worker proposals, changes of government in Mexico City, and other such transient problems and events—all of them framed by the media’s obfuscation of whether or not illegal immigration’s costs outweigh its benefits and by the maudlin script of “immigrant rights”—we don’t get the Big Picture: that the Mexican government is promoting and carrying out an attack on the United States.



Another reason we miss what’s happening is that our focus is on the immigrants as individuals. Thus our leaders talk about illegal immigrants as “good dads,” “hard working folks” seeking to better their lives and their family’s prospects. In fact, this is not about individual immigrants and their families, legal or illegal. It is about a great national migration, a nation of people moving into our nation’s land, in order to reproduce on it their own nation and people and push ours aside.



Thus, in orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state is representing the desires of the Mexican people as a whole.



What are these desires?



(1) Political revanchism—to regain control of the territories Mexico lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliations they feel they have suffered at our hands for the last century and a half;



(2) Cultural imperialism—to expand the Mexican culture and the Spanish language into North America; and especially



(3) Economic parasitism—to maintain and increase the flow of billions of dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican political system cocooned in its status quo. "



http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21309
knightrunner13
2007-05-02 00:12:40 UTC
So your saying as long as they have been to collage they have the right to break the law way to go smart *** .
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2007-05-02 00:12:33 UTC
Okay, first you ask us what we think and then before we can answer, you start insulting us and telling us that we can't come up with an intelligent response nor have an intelligent discussion on this. So I guess you really don't want our opinion do you?
volleyballchick (cowards block)
2007-05-02 00:30:07 UTC
Well, my friend. Here is my intelligent response:



The law is the law. Until the laws are changed, they are criminals. It doesn't matter what type of car you drive, the size of your house, or the amount of money in your wallet - if you break the laws of this country, then you are a criminal. And since they didn't bother to go through the proper channels, then they are no better than the murderers in our nations prisons.



See, I will put this into a better prospective for you, being as you are so intelligent and better than anyone else. If I suddenly decided that my lifestyle in my home wasn't to my satisfaction, and we weren't living a rich enough life, I can not pack up myself, my husband and my toddler and go over to the rich side of town and break into one of the mansions there. I can't demand that the people living in the mansion support us and pay all of our living expenses, and allow us to stay because they are so wealthy and it is only fair. See, the law calls that breaking and entering, and that will land my husband and I in prison, and our toddler in foster care.



You can't choose what laws you like and don't like, and then break the ones you don't like because they aren't "fair to you". That is selfish and very disrespectful. If they have such respect for this nation, then they would have followed the rules and laws of the nation. I can't go down to the local BMW dealership and choose to steal a car because I don't like the law that you have to pay for the car before you take it. It isn't fair to those that don't earn enough money to purchase it. So what is the difference between either one of those situations and your friend's family?



If they are so educated, then they should have been able to get into this country legally. Either that or they could have made a good living in their native country. Having stuff and money doesn't make you above the law (though there are those that feel otherwise) or better than anyone. All it does is make you look more like a fraud and a criminal.



All illegal immigrants should be deported. Doesn't matter how much they have.



PS - I am also willing to bet that if your friend's parents have high paying jobs, then they both lied on their applications and paperwork they filled out. Businesses that have jobs that pay like that don't hire illegal immigrants to work for them. They fear the US government and their sanctions. So that is even more criminal. Misrepresentation on job applications and government forms (every employee hired must complete an I-9, which is a form that certifies you are legal to work in this nation) is a felony, and can cost them both their jobs, as well as time in prison before they are deported.



Now, Mr. Judgmental - no one is above the law. I think that the law is there for a reason, and people that don't respect that, don't respect our nation. They need to leave. You can't choose which laws you would like to obey - it doesn't work like that. Until the laws are changed, they are criminal. And the laws state that anyone that is in this country and not a citizen will be deported upon breaking one of our laws. Your friend's parents have broken quite a few. Shame on them.



And I DID go to college! I have both my Bachelors Degree and my Masters. I think that your presumption that only the uneducated are the ones that oppose illegal immigration just took a hit in the @$$.
Monika
2007-05-02 00:25:12 UTC
(Jestes Polski?) Anyway. I don't know whether your friend is in college or not, but if they are they have some sort of illegal paperwork, (ie. a fake green card, or ss number.) Your friend’s parents pay property taxes obviously, and perhaps income tax but I don't believe you can file your 1040s with shady numbers, so they are not paying into the tax system completely.



Just to be fair all of this must be mentioned, but I do think illegal immigrants that are successful should receive amnesty. There are immigrants of different socio-economic levels, but unfortunately most of the focus is on those who are poor and using up tax dollars. If they are well off they obviously worked their way up to that. Someone doing well in his or her own country would not migrate to another just for the heck of it (unless its because of religious or political reasons).



And on a last and final note, saying that Americans don’ t have anything intelligent to say doesn’t give you any fans.
dsp_garcia
2007-05-02 00:09:56 UTC
That's a good point. Maybe we should just deport everyone who does not have a college education. That would be fair since many u.s citizens are just lucky that they were born here. Good point
M B
2007-05-01 17:18:01 UTC
So according to your theory as long as you have an education you are above the law? Wow I must be above the law so I guess I can go speed down the street with no worries because I have a good education. Good analogy.


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