What type of gangs in the U.S. pose more of a threat....?

Question

to a wider range of people? and which gangs are growing at a faster rate?

a.) Illegal immigrant gangs that are formed to protect each other and their 'turf', and pose a threat to other gang members or people that get in thier way of 'business'.
or

b.) Nazi Skinheads that form gangs to resort to violence towards ANYBODY non-white, whites that date the opposite race, jews and gays just because they think the US should be white America and plan to tear it down, to rebuild it?

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OK! Anti's here's a little disclaimer before you all go hay-wire;

I am not an illegal, nor a gang member. I do not condone gangs and their violence....and yes! I know.... they are both violent. We know 'illegal is 'illegal', but that's not the question.

Answer 1

GTony, it's skinheads and white nationalists who espouse the overthrow of the United States Government and impose a racialist society. The are the real threat to this country and should be watched constantly. There is close to 100,000 active members in white nationalist forums across the 'net and anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows this. One the most famous is "Stormfront" plus there is a whole listing of websites espousing a white nationalist viewpoint and seeking to attract disgruntled and uneducated white youth to strengthen is ranks. MS-13 is only a street gang with no political purpose and is used by anti-mexican foes to give credence to their asinine views on immigration. Some of your detractors are actually white nationalists, i'm sure you know this already.

Answer 2

All gangs, as you said, are violent and destructive to our nation. I have to go with the illegals... if they were not here to begin with, at least that portion of gang warfare would not be present. And a 54% increase.... yadda yadda.... 1 + 1 = 2 or a 50% increase. You seem to have problems when comparing percentages and raw numbers... Your illegal alien numbers are always the lower "looking" percentages and your proof against white citizens are always raw numbers. If there are 50 million illegals and their spawn in the US today, that is approx 20% of the US population, of which, approx. 57% are mexican.... you do the rest of the math.

Answer 3

Illegal immigrant gangs by a wide margin, I have met 3 skinheads in all my long years on this earth, Hispanic gangs whom many are illegal are spreading like wildfire.



Come on tony, even you pro-illegals can't believe some random skin heads whom are on their way out are more violent than MS13 or the numerous Hispanic gangs that kill, rape, maim etc every day.



That's even a stretch for you, this is getting embarrassing.

Answer 4

There are hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in Hispanic gangs all over the USA. They are a much larger and more organized group than the Skinheads. There are just a lot more Hispanics in gangs than there are white people in Nazi groups. That's the fact, Jack!

Answer 5

MS-13 is spreading like wildfire throughout the U.S. and Nazi Skinheads groups got more FBI agents in them then Race haters..



i guess you believe this Illegal immigrant gang is doing the job American gangs wont do!!

Answer 6

illegal aliens-"their just here to feed their family" which is costing US taxpayers billions of dollars every year. And their families grow like weeds.



Skinheads don't use fed programs and don't breed like rabbits.

Answer 7

I have never seen any evidence that b) exists.



And a is not entirely accurate - they form to run drugs, transport illegals, and a host of other illegal activities.



And please don't post one of your bogus blogs as proof.

Answer 8

roflmao That rags lies again Tony? Geez, Tony every time you post those lies, and I counter - you post it again as if it's fact. Facts according to you, and your rag link.



Here's the truth folks!



Latest 2007 FBI Crime Statistics

After rising for two straight years, the estimated number of violent crimes in the nation declined in 2007. Property crime declined for the fifth straight year. And each of the seven specific offense categories -- from aggravated assault to murder -- was down from 2006, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program. The agency annually releases statistics on violent crimes like murder, rape and robbery and on property crimes such as burglary and vehicle theft. Not all agencies participate in the voluntary UCR program and therefore are not reflected in the data.



Each year the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program collects monthly counts of crimes from thousands of law enforcement agencies. This includes information about violent crime offenses (murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault), and property crime offenses (burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson). Not all agencies participate in the voluntary UCR program and therefore are not reflected in the data. Select a city for detailed crime data on that city.



An important note about the numbers: The report features a prominent message cautioning against using the statistics to rank cities or counties. Such rankings can lead to simplistic or incomplete analyses, overlooking the many variables impacting crime and its reporting.



http://www.cnjonline.com/sections/infocenter/2007-crime-statistics/



to this link



Hate Crimes and Criminal Civil Rights Violations

http://public.findlaw.com/civil-rights/more-civil-rights-topics/hate-crimes-more/



to this link



http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/civilrights/hate.htm



And clicking on Southern Poverty Law Center posts the following info.



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I guess you believe that continuing to use that link of yours will make it true. At least in your mind Tony. You forgot to mention that bit of info about the link you refer to as accurate and factual. Talk about a biased piece of reporting. The majority of the groups they focused on to include in their list are white associated hate groups. So which race do you think most others are going to focus on? The neo- Conferates? Or the Black Separatists?



edit: I just checked for "Hate Crime - Crime in the United States 2008". Funny those Hate Crime Statistics aren't even out yet. Only 2007's. Now if my local Chief of police gets the new 2008 reports, I'll see them around Oct. of this year.





Released January 12, 2008 Preliminary still indicates lies being told by your link. What a surprise is that though eh!



Preliminary figures indicate that, as a whole, law enforcement agencies throughout the Nation reported a decrease of 3.5 percent in the number of violent crimes brought to their attention for the first six months of 2008 when compared with figures reported for the same time in 2007. The violent crime category includes murder, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The number of property crimes in the United States from January to June of 2008 decreased 2.5 percent when compared with data from the same time period in 2007. Property crimes include burglary, larceny-theft, and motor vehicle theft. Arson is also a property crime, but data for arson are not included in property crime totals. Figures for 2008 indicate that arson decreased 5.6 percent in 2008 when compared to 2007 figures.



The data presented in Tables 1 and 2 indicate the percent change in offenses known to law enforcement for 2007 and 2008 by population group and geographic region, respectively. Table 3 reflects the percent change within the Nation for consecutive years (each year compared to the prior year). Table 4 presents the number of offenses known to law enforcement for agencies having a resident population of 100,000 and over and providing 6 months of complete data for 2008. In addition, Table 4 presents 6 months of 2007 data, where available, as a point of comparison. All data in this report are preliminary.



http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/2008prelim/index.html

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2007/jurisdiction.htm



Going global to fight gangs

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-delgadillo18-2008aug18,0,1640811.story



Excerpt: "The two fastest-growing and most powerful gangs in the world are homegrown products of Los Angeles. The Mara Salvatrucha gang, or MS-13, and the 18th Street gang, known in Central America as Mara 18, sprang up in Pico-Union and the densely populated neighborhoods around MacArthur Park. But unlike many local street gangs, these two were entrepreneurial: They recruited Central American immigrants across the city and then expanded farther -- throughout Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. Conservative estimates put MS-13's ranks at 20,000 and 18th Street's at 30,000 worldwide."



Gang Menu

http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/menu.php



Criminal Street Gangs in the United States

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/gangunit/about/usgangs.html



To add - Good thing you're only looking for another Pro to agree with you so you can give them Best Answer. NOT Fairness! I guess I never provide enough counter links to yours. Of course no anti could.



Maybe more and more readers are catching on to your propaganda. We are only trying to be fair towards the young people wanting to learn about immigration that frequent yahoo answers......fairness.

Answer 9

I will say letter B



Because is proving what many people worldwide know about SOME Americans.