Question:
Supporters of SB1070; are you ok with all the lies and hate behind the law?
GreasyTony
2010-08-18 07:35:16 UTC
If you weren't aware of it, how do you feel about the law now?

How much "hate" lies behind Sb1070?
by Restore Fairness , Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 06:10:35 PM EDT

Despite what supporters say about SB1070’s merits, it is impossible to ignore it’s blatant inclusion of measures that mandate local law enforcement to stop and question people whom they think are “reasonably suspicious” of being undocumented, thereby mandating racial profiling. When Arizona’s Governor Brewer was asked, “what does an undocumented person look like”, she couldn’t answer. When SB1070 co-sponsor Senator Huppenthal was asked, “what constitutes reasonable suspicion” he couldn’t answer. Some like Senator Bilbray believe that trained officers can identify undocumented people based on their clothes and shoes! For real proof, all we need to do is look towards federal immigration programs that give local police the power to enforce federal immigration law such as the 287(g) and Secure Communities to see the increase in racial profiling, with the majority of those caught guilty of either minor crimes or even U.S. citizens.

They say that the best way to understand something is to understand how it came to be. A deeper look at the people behind SB1070 throws a disturbing light on the how it came to be passed. For one, the man responsible for introducing the bill Senator Pearce has a long history with White Supremacist organizations, and is infamous for sending extreme white nationalist comments to his supporters in which he attacked the media for portraying -

A world in which every voice proclaims the equality of the races, the inerrant nature of the Jewish ‘Holocaust’ tale, the wickedness of attempting to halt the flood of non-White aliens pouring across our borders…

http://mydd.com/users/restore-fairness/posts/how-much-hate-lies-behind-sb10
22 answers:
Average Joe
2010-08-18 07:43:24 UTC
I don't support that racist law.





AZ Sheriff Babeu appears on a white nationalist program, invites listeners to join his "posse"

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007190033
2010-08-18 10:18:06 UTC
" it is impossible to ignore it’s blatant inclusion of measures that mandate local law enforcement to stop and question people whom they think are “reasonably suspicious” of being undocumented, thereby mandating racial profiling"



do you even know the law? have you read the law?

people like you watch the news and agree with all of the propaganda those liberals put out...how about, you read the law, and then come back and read what you just wrote because if you knew the law, you would understand that this law doesn't give law enforcement permission to "stop and question people whom they think are reasonably suspicious of being undocumented". thats complete bull and idfk where you got that from, probably the news or some ignorant latino celebrity trying to make this law seem racist, when if fact its not..its just trying to protect OUR OWN CITIZENS. no cop is going to stop a "illegal looking person" on the street and ask for their documents. a person (ANY person, white, black, latino) has to commit a crime, THEN they will be asked for their documents. this law is just trying to protect this country...OUR country. not theirs. they are illegal, and if they want to be legal, they can go through the same process millions and millions of other immigrants went through.



OH. and to answer the actual question. i am MORE than okay with "all the lies and hate behind the law", considering there are no lies and there isn't any hate behind it. ignorant people like you should stop believing such foolish and poorly written articles.
berdine
2016-10-17 06:52:04 UTC
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Mythos
2010-08-18 08:59:38 UTC
Yea, yea, the law is "racist". What a bunch of nonsense. Hurling accusations and ad hominen attacks at the Bill isn't going to change the fact that illegal aliens have NO Constitutional Rights in this nation whatsoever for the simple fact that they came here illegally,



As for what an illegal alien in Arizona looks like, they look like any Mexican who just about any cop could walk up to and, with an extremely high probabilistic expectation, expect to not be able to be confronted with any documentation showing themselves to be here legally. That's what an illegal alien looks like in Arizona.



You people simply do not get that these people who come across the border illegally are not "equal" to native-born Americans politically, socially, economically, - or legally. All your cries of "racism" (the usual blathering sentiments of such people) against SB1070 is not going to change the fact that illegal aliens ARE a huge economic problem here in America.



The red-herring against Senator Pearce's alledged ties to "white supremacist" organizations is about as low and desperate as "restore fairness"can obviously get, and as far as that sheriff goes who says he refuses to enforce the law, - I hope he does get sued for not enforcing the law and upholding the will of the People who are sick and tired of all the fallacious "arguments" against SB1070 and all the mud-slinging ad hominens against Governor Brewer.





Those who bemoan the "plight" of the illegal aliens should consider this view : if these illegal Mexicans come here because they want a better way of life for themselves and their families, then maybe they should start cleaning up their own backyard (nation) and getting rid of the human debris that clutters up their society - and their government.



Err - don't send them here to our already stressed out economically and socially dysfunctional society.



"Equality" is a code word used by people who simply do not understand what things like "national identity" and "sovereignty" means on any level of running a Republic.
?
2010-08-18 08:23:26 UTC
"Despite what supporters say about SB1070’s merits, it is impossible to ignore it’s blatant inclusion of measures that mandate local law enforcement to stop and question people whom they think are “reasonably suspicious” of being undocumented, thereby mandating racial profiling."

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Hard to believe an article when the first sentence is a lie. Law enforcement may NOT stop and question people whom they think are illegal aliens. They may only inquire about immigration status during LAWFUL CONTACT for some reason other than immigration, such as a traffic stop. If the author is this sloppy, how can one believe anything he writes?
Sheriff Joe
2010-08-18 09:00:49 UTC
I don't need some idiot's opinion piece talking trying to compare enforcing immigration law to the Jewish Holocost to tell me about the law. Unlike you morons, I actually read the bill itself. That's why I am ok with it.
2010-08-18 08:15:04 UTC
Look, a cop can't ask for ID just cause you're brown or black or whatever, they have to have cause. i.e. a crime is being committed. It could be anything from running a red light to loitering in a parking lot. (that is a crime), A cop can request ID from anyone in that situation. As it is now, immigrants are required to have ID on them at all times.

Illegals should be deported. They entered the country without permission and there are millions of people they cut in front of who are waiting, properly for a green-card or visa.
2010-08-18 08:49:58 UTC
I still do support the law and I know the distortion going on by the pro-illegal crowd to dilute the culture of America. What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand?
2010-08-18 07:46:55 UTC
I agree they are bad thing relating to SB 1070. SB 1070 could end up bankrupting Arizona, because of the lawsuits if they falsely arrest Latino person who is US citizen or a Latino looking person. Im Latino too and I worry that the law is based on racial profiling. Although i support of getting the illegals out of here. Illegals hurt this country. I think having armed guard on our borders is the best idea and to have a big wall on the border. Also penalize corporations, companies, and individuals who hire illegals for work.



Im not for or against SB 1070 for now as Im not properly informed to make a wise decision.
Kevin's Johnson
2010-08-18 07:48:13 UTC
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Go here to read more dirt about SB1070:





White Supremacists Donate to Arizona SB 1070's Legal Defense

http://immigration.change.org/blog/view/white_supremacists_donate_to_arizona_sb_1070s_legal_defense
Don
2010-08-18 08:03:12 UTC
I was border line with the law, but now this just puts the nail on the coffin. I will no longer support it.
Sweet Cheeks
2010-08-18 07:44:30 UTC
Let's see who's the first to call this question with facts the "race card" LOL!

When Anti's can't answer, they just call it a race card.
2010-08-18 07:47:35 UTC
The only "hate" I see in relation to the law is that coming from illegals and their apologists/justificationists.



The law is opposed by a very racist organisation, La Raza (The Klan with a Tan) who by their very name (La Raza=The Race) indicates its racist intent.



It is a well known fact the the majority of illegals in the American Southwest are hiSPanIC.



Therefore, if you want to catch illegals you aren't going to get very far only stopping Blondes and Red-Heads.



Very similar to the tactic of suspecting those with an Irish accent in The Bronx of being illegal, as there are very many of them there. Fortunate for them, though, they aren't involved in drug smuggling and organized crime as are the hispanics.
2010-08-18 07:46:28 UTC
Yes, ranting by some random, racist, pro-crime nutjob on the internet is sure to change my mind on this.



And make no mistake, your belief that belonging to a certain race means you can break any law you want is certainly racism.
Paladin
2010-08-18 07:45:57 UTC
no. I am not ok with all the lies and hate spread by those who oppose our new law on what they claim are civil rights violations but who actually have an agenda of open borders
andy
2010-08-18 07:42:50 UTC
Actually, you even state that enforcing federal immigration laws increase racial profiling with the majority being guilty of minor crimes or even US citizens. Since when is it fine to break the law? That is what a lot of us are getting tired of, if you are here legally then you are fine. If you are here illegally you are a criminal and if you further break laws that makes you even more of a criminal.



I mean, if we listen to people like you, we would empty our jails of everyone except the worse criminals. That doesn't make sense.
2010-08-18 07:38:04 UTC
The law doesn't do that. The law as passed says a cop can only question your citizenship if you are already stopped or jailed for a different crime. In order to "restore fairness" you should start with the facts.
?
2010-08-18 07:41:55 UTC
OMG! This changes my opinion.
?
2010-08-18 07:41:29 UTC
YES toni, I am fine with it and I am not white. And I don't believe white supremacist would enjoy my company! The only hate I hear is coming from the pro-illegal side. These are the racist. It is not just what one man wants to be done. It is what the American people want!! No one is as racist as what mexico is to their black citizens. Fight your fight there for equal rights. Funny how mexico makes their blacks sing the National anthem to prove they are citizens of mexico.



seriously, look at your answer with the hotwater account, and you actually think this makes a difference and we all know it is you, funny how you think this makes it look like more people actually believe the rubbish you cut and paste.
2010-08-18 07:41:20 UTC
I dont think you get it.



Illegal immigrants do not have civil rights, as defined by the United nations they have human rights but they only have civil rights in their own nation.



It doesnt matter what is behind any law if it sends illegals back to their own country so americans who are the rightfull owners of this nation can work it is only good.



The majority of americans are against amnestys and are for deportations and thats whats going to happen.



illegals having their tantrums like kids in the street has only made americans more sure of this.
Stacy
2010-08-18 07:41:07 UTC
Never have been and never will support the law for that same reason.





Arizona sheriff: Border fence made things worse, new law's a 'nightmare'

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/05/13/4282057-arizona-sheriff-border-fence-made-things-worse-new-laws-a-nightmare
Bill
2010-08-18 07:45:36 UTC
I hated this law, and now I really really hate it. omg!


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