Question:
The "illegal immigrant" Karma?
Jujuchi
2007-01-18 14:26:13 UTC
I am a Native American...(Mohawk Indian, and Cherokee)...and it seems so funny to me how white people are complaining about how the illegal immigrants are coming here without permission, but which Cheif gave white people the permission to come over here to steal our land, kill our people, and take over? You white people cant get mad because you did it to us! So how does it feel to have people come into your land without permission? What goes around comes around doesn't it? LOL!
29 answers:
xcelix
2007-01-18 14:36:17 UTC
First of all, don't listen to the name-calling losers answering this question.



2nd, the people that are complaining are doing it because it's their right, because half of them have just jumped on the band wagon. They see the mob, and run with it, instead of researching and making an educated decision as to WHY they feel the way they do. They think everything should be served to them on a silver platter, simply because they were born here. They feel they are becoming a minority, yet refuse to admit that they did it to somebody first!
2016-05-24 08:34:54 UTC
I think overall David Cameron is a good prime-minister with good intentions. I agree that we need good relations with the USA. But I also agree that this is an area Cameron needs to work on. He needs to be co-operative without bending over and taking Obama package. I was really disappointed when he said that we were the "junior partner" of world war two when we did as much, if not more than the US. You can take somebody else's advice on certain issues without it being considered a weakness. Being able to compromise for the national interest over political ideals is a strength.
2007-01-18 14:52:57 UTC
Why does all the immigration talk focuss on "white people this" and " white people that", I find it fascinating how whites are the only ones NOT allowed to be racist. It is a LEGAL issue. If the "natives" had a unified sovereign government, or even a written language for that matter, I'm sure that the SPANISH invaders of North America would have drawn up an official request for occupancy of the land..
Shrieking Panda
2007-01-18 17:11:59 UTC
We saw what happened to the Indians and we should learn from that history to KNOW what happens when you're country is invaded.



As for it being Karma, nope. The white people did it to my ancestors and now the Mexicans are doing it to me again.



In addition, I'm not sure that the whites expected us (the Native Americans) to support them and their children.
mojojo66
2007-01-18 14:36:23 UTC
Not all white people stole the land from the Indians. The Indians believed the land didn't belong to anyone, and when the whites started to settle the land that's when some Indians started saying it was theirs. There were bad whites that did bad things, but for the most part the land was traded, so get over it. TODAY we have laws to abide by when becoming a citizen of the U.S. and if the illegal criminals can't abide by it we don't want them here.
2007-01-18 14:38:13 UTC
And my French ancestors had to flee to Germany because of religious persecution ...what's your point?



But, I do agree, to a point, with your point of view on this. After all, it does seem like we Americans (not just the "white people") are being a bit hypocritical in this thinking in light of our history's actions toward the Native American. HOWEVER, now that we do have a nation, we feel the obligation to save it from invasion.
carolinatinpan
2007-01-18 14:37:38 UTC
Whites bought a lot of the land. I am not condoning their actions at all. But what is done is done. This is still your country too. They cost your country 30 to 60 Billion every year. They kill thousands of Americans every year. They do not care about any laws. They drive with no insurance . If they hit you you have to pay for it. They smuggle in drugs when they enter . They have not been vaccinated for diseases we have in the US so TB and other diseases are on the rise here. They depress the job market with cheaper labor that lowers the wages of all Americans. Their government sends them here to make money to support the 10% who own everything in Mexico while the other 90 % are poor. If you don't see anything wrong with this list . Let me know i am sure with a little bit of digging i can come up with 50 more reasons they are bad for your country.
2007-01-18 15:16:08 UTC
Hmm... I'm "white" and I dont remember stealing any land from you personally. Are you the holder of the mortgage I am paying on? Sorry about those late payments, I am struggling to make ends meet with all these "entitled" do-nothingers I am helping to support.

Dude, you need to stop being such a racist and painting everybody with such a wide brush. I havent stolen anything from anybody, unless you count that pen I found in my pocket just now and that was accidental. I will put it back when I go back to work.



p.s. I am also "Native American". I was born and raised here, as were a few generations of my family. I aint from anywhere else.
Tala
2007-01-18 14:54:00 UTC
Lakhota here and I totally agree with you. I think it's funny, but I don't side with the Mexicans. You know that if this land had no whites on it, your people, especially mine would not tolerate a Mexican invasion either. Tens of millions of Mexicans should not be allowed break the law, invade our land and drain our resources.



We can't live in the past, the white people know and will always be reminded of the atrocities of their ancestors. We should think about the damage that is being done today, and be concerned for our future.
sociald
2007-01-18 14:39:35 UTC
You remember the holiday thanksgiving??? the one where native americans gave thanks for the white people that were there?

At that time they welcomed them.



Yes the white man took over their lands. And yes that is in part why reservations were established , the is a secretary of native american affairs and why there are tribal grant funds that native americas receive.

I am not saying that all those things make up for it. But im saying the picture you are painting isnt the whole picture.



And regardless of all that, we are where we are today.
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2007-01-18 14:34:46 UTC
Karma? Being tribal affiliated have you seen what the T'ohono O'odham tribe is doing to curtail this illegal alien karma you speak of? They are true Americans and are not so happy of this permission you speak of. In fact, they are some of the best border protectors around. You see, the illegal alien trouble is cutting into their funds for health care and it is having a dire effect on their people.
2007-01-18 15:06:22 UTC
Nothing to gloat about- but history keeps repeating itself! I am sure that in a 100 years, Mexicans will be the majority and the leadership. I wonder how life will be then...I have feeling human beings are all equally vulnerable to power- they'll subjugate the minorities when possible...unfortunately.
2007-01-18 14:42:33 UTC
well i do believe in karma, and to tell you the truth im sick of all these white ppl arguing and telling mexicans or any other race to go back where they come from, just like some land belong to the Indians, some land belonged to the Mexicans, like California..... most white ppl and will never know what its like to come from a poor country and they never will because most of them are spoiled brats that get things handed to them..... If all illegal immigrants where wiped out of America there would be a lot of jobs, that i bet most of the white ppl would never ever ... well lets just say that whatever there maids do is what most jobs would be left over. well i must say that im proud to be an american but more proud that im half mexican. Nice question..... have a good one :o)
2007-01-18 16:43:16 UTC
Its not only affecting whites its affecting us others as well. Yes it is sad Karma but times are different and it is a melting pot.
2007-01-18 15:36:52 UTC
yes i do agree alot! i am a hispanic and no i am not an immigrant but it is really upseting how someone stereotypes you! it is also disturbing that many people who are against immigrants hire them for low cost salaries, i am not rasist but this is really sad to see how people discriminate especially when you know that they came here to have a better life, have money,and give their family a better life! though yes i also know people that don't come haere for that and only do commit crime, but that dosen't change the fact that we are people to and we culd aswell talk about others but we don't because we are no ones to argue because we have immigrated to this country by "imigrants" are people and also deserve a right!
2007-01-18 19:12:06 UTC
My mother who is half Cherokee,says the exact same thing.She also adds,that this is just the BEGINNING !
jasonsluck13
2007-01-18 14:29:56 UTC
you are comparing apples to oranges sweetheart. that was a long time ago. laws were different. the world was still being discovered. the immigration issue now is of a different animal. by the way, i'm half cherokee.
nomucatoday
2007-01-18 16:02:51 UTC
I totally agree. I'm tired of these racists saying that illegals don't speak English and all that sh*t. Well, there are legal people who don't speak English EITHER.
bob b
2007-01-18 14:34:36 UTC
Hundreds of yrs ago

get over it

live in the now

Quit you crying OK

It is all our country not just white folks

Become a American show some patriotism

defend your country from Illegal alien Invader Rejects
helen l
2007-01-18 15:45:42 UTC
I too am Native American so i understand that.
2007-01-18 14:37:59 UTC
actually Miss sassy pants, none of it's very funny.

It wasn't funny then, it's not funny now.

You're probably not racking up a whole Lotta good Karma yourself there with that contemptuous grudge holding vibe you've got goin on.
Lily VonSchtupp
2007-01-18 14:35:39 UTC
I can get mad if I want to.

And guess what, if illegal immigration doesn't get stopped, your BIA checks are going to be reduced because you will be helping us take care of all the illegals. So save your laughter, you'll need your sense of humor when it hits your pocketbook, too.



Oh yeah, and remember what Cortez did to the Aztecs. It could happen again.
2007-01-18 14:29:05 UTC
And my ancestors in Britain were robbed & enslaved by

the Romans and I want reparations from the Italian Govt.
thirsty mind
2007-01-18 14:37:57 UTC
I have been saying the same thing for years. This year at Thanksgiving someone ask me what I was grateful for. I said I was grateful I wasn't one of the poor Indians that the white man invited to the first feast . He then said "oh thank you for teaching us how to survive the winter. Now ,give us all your land and get out!"
theearlybirdy
2007-01-18 14:32:00 UTC
Hey we bought most of it from you fair and square with what you call "wampum".



Don't try and take it back. I think there is a deragatory term to describe people like that. Now if only I could think of it...
2007-01-18 14:31:04 UTC
im guessing that most native americans arent in the higher tax bracket. when the lost jobs, and economic decline increases, the poor will feel the pain first and worst.......



still laughing?
dogman302007
2007-01-18 14:30:17 UTC
guess what tonto they are coming to your country again and theres 100 times more mexicans than there was white ppl and they will steal everything they can from you and government the gov. will have to cut other costs like giving indians $$ for nuttin and give it to mexicans then well see whos crying
MinuteWoman
2007-01-18 15:06:41 UTC
If that was so true why are you so passive about it ?
Sparkles
2007-01-18 14:29:10 UTC
I don't complain. I agree with you 100%. I get sick and tired of people complaining and thinking they are more superior then others. Treat others as you would want to be treated.


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