The United States Profits From Illegal Immigration.?

Question

To the rest of you who have no clue what you're talking about, here are the facts:

This came from a previous poster who said Illegals cost the taxpayer's money.

$11 BILLION to $22 BILLION is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://www.fairus.org/site/pageserver?pa...

$12 BILLION DOLLARS is spent a year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.

CNN
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Let's say there are 10 million illegals in the country. If each illegal only contributes 1 DOLLAR a day in sales tax (this is just sales tax on food or other stuff - doesn't even include income taxes which over 50% of illegals pay by using fake SS numbers), then the Federal Government would earn 36.5 Billion Dollars on income from those taxes. That would pay for the entire costs listed above and still leave money left over.

But we all know that the true figures are much much higher than that, so the Govt profits many many more billions on illegals.

Answer 1

I'm sure you are correct, otherwise the problem would have been corrected years ago.

Answer 2

My position is, take your cheap labor, and leave. Mexico can ramp up its' own industry to the point where they can support their own citizens. Cut-rate can also mean poor quality, non-compliant construction, so forth and so on. Illegal immigration is a crime, and, AND, if all the people in Mexico are so hard-working, where's the proof? Also, another angle here is that we're being lied to. We give Mexico BILLIONS annually, just give it to em, and...what's the result. They could build their needed infrastructure just off that, but instead, it's apparently going in someone's pocket. And, that's part of the history with Mexico, remember when we forgave Mexico's 20 billion debt?



Mexico's into us for 10's of billions, which we'll never see again.

It's a complete and total joke. They need to build up their own industry, their own agriculture(which they have like 5 companies there that do that stuff already, maybe even more), and REALLY develop their own country.



Finally, I don't care what the profit ratio is, it's time to fine the employers of illegals for breaking the law.



There's nothing stopping Mexico from fixing their country except fear and good sense, and the fixes really aren't that big, or even difficult. But, they have to get started, and that's not going to happen until the border fence gets laid in, and illegal immigration is stopped.

Answer 3

Our tax dollars are being spent in record numbers in order to provide free health care for anyone desperate enough to leave behind the country they hate to come here. Illegal immigrants are infiltrating our borders, popping out 6 kids and collecting WIC, welfare and free medical care. They are using up resources that belong to our citizens, and the cheap, slave labor is not worth the trade off. Sales tax applies to everyone who buys anything in the US, not just illegals. Using fake SS#'s? It's a Federal crime. Are you suggesting that we should all turn a blind eye because they are paying taxes via the violation of Federal law? If Mexicans hate Mexico so much then they should apply for citizenship just like every other person who doesn't come from our bordering countries. How fair is it that they can just sneak over the border and get free food and healthcare for their kids while others who legally apply to come here must wait even longer because they are clogging the immigration system? Illegally entering our country is a crime, and for good reason. Illiminating illegal workers would force these multi-billion dollar companies to actually pay a living wage to US citizens, therefore we could afford the fruits of our own labor. Otherwise, perhaps the USA should just take over Mexico, get rid of the corrupted Vincente Foxx and make the entire country of Mexico an American state, responsible for paying taxes to support their own men, women and children. Until then, illegal immigrants have absolutely no right to expect any free ride. Until we resolve the issues of poverty among our own citizens, we have no business trying to feed the poor in other countries. Illegal immigration contributes to the poverty in the USA. If you are so blinded by your love for illegals then perhaps you should consider moving to Mexico, assinating their president, illiminating the drug trade, and actually giving these people jobs in their own country.

Answer 4

Assuming your figures are correct ( I don't believe the are comprehesive enough) the aspect that you don't seem to figure in is that the quality of lives for legal and American born citizens is denegraded to a large degree by the competition for homes, jobs, goods and services and yes, parking spaces! (and the list goes on).

The quality of life in American is what people want to come here for. If it is ruined by non law abiding people who reproduce like insects and are nearly 40% of the population of our jails (a very expensive stat you failed to mention among several.) the costs to America, outside of the economic picture, is staggering and will crumble or change the face of America and probubly bring the USA down to the likes of something similar to Mexico. Why do you think these people are leaving there? They didn't change their own country, what do you think they will do when they get to the USA? Look around and you can come to your own conclusions. Many of us have already. I for one don't like what I see or am experiencing at the hands of illegals (mostly from Mexico).

Yes, they are generally nice, hardworking people who in SOME ways help the USA but many are unfamiliar with obeying the law and that will never change unless they go through proper naturalization programs. Balance, education and commitment is what our American world is about and what makes it so great. The illegals upset all of that and must be removed so we can re-establish our society in balance, fairness and proper productivity and oportunity for all that are native born and LEGAL immigrants to the USA.

Answer 5

Sales tax has nothing to do with schools or welfare. It has to do with incidental services like road repair and transportation which illegals also use.



Poor people don't earn enough to pay to cover their school or services which is why we and all other countries limit how many poor could come. If they could cover their own education funds, their own countries would provide it.

Answer 6

Ditto to 'Ditto's answer. Good research. American taxpayers lose out on illegal immigration.



La Gueta Micaela _ You need to shut your stupid mouth. You don't know anything about the Native Americans of TODAY! Get off the past!! Today we are AMERICANS and WE uphold the LAWS of the USA!! The law of immigration is to be upheld as is the law against murder, theft, fraud, identity theft, drug dealing, rape, pedophilia, etc.! Read what Ditto put up there!! He has links to prove what he said. You're just spouting off at the mouth. Americans are not racist to want our laws enforced and you are ignorant to assume such. You have no justification for the illegals entering the USA. There is none. No one is more racist than those who think our laws should be changed to allow people of a majority Latino to get 'amnesty' for a crime THEY are the main ones committing. How pompous to think we would succumb to demands by people who are in our country illegally!!!



●DEPORT ILLEGALS

●NO AMNESTY

●NO EXCEPTIONS

●MAKE ENGLISH OUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGE

●PUNISH THEIR SUPPORTERS

●PUNISH THOSE WHO HIRE THEM

●PUNISH THOSE WHO RENT OR SELL HOUSING TO THEM OR HARBOR THEM

●ENFORCE OUR LAWS

●BABIES BORN IN THE U.S.A. MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE LEGAL PARENT, NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES

●GIVE OUR BORDER PATROL THE RIGHT TO SHOOT TO KILL ANYONE CROSSING OUR BORDERS ILLEGALLY

●SUPPORT THE MINUTEMEN

●SUPPORT THE "FENCE"

Answer 7

You're dazed and confused as you left out the most meaningful amount of all and that is this: how much they contribute to the overall economy by participating in it as workers.



Why don't you look THAT up and tell us how much it is?

Answer 8

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.



http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8



2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.



http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.



http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



8. $50 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for social services by American taxpayers.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



10. Hispanics in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-Hispanics. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States.

CNN

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

Answer 9

You did not include the COST of this cheap labor.Here are the FACTS.



Illegal alien workers may increase profits for employers, but they are costly to the American taxpayer. Most illegal aliens have low educational attainment, few skills, and they work for low wages, often in the underground economy where they pay no taxes on their earnings. Since about three million illegal aliens gained legal status in the amnesty of 1986, the flow of illegal immigration has increased, and today that population is estimated at 9-11 million illegal alien residents in the country. The former Immigration and Naturalization Service estimated that the illegal alien population was increasing by about half a million aliens per year in 2000.



The Huddle Study

Because the number of illegal aliens can only be estimated, similarly the fiscal cost (government budget outlays) for those aliens can only be estimated. Dr. Donald Huddle, a Rice University economics professor, published a systematic analysis of those costs as of 1996 (see table below). The study also estimated the tax payments of those same aliens.



At that time, the illegal alien population was estimated to be about five million persons. The estimated fiscal cost of those illegal aliens to the federal, state and local governments was about $33 billion. This impact was partially offset by an estimated $12.6 billion in taxes paid to the federal, state and local governments, resulting in a net cost to the American taxpayer of about $20 billion every year. This estimate did not include indirect costs that result from unemployment payments to Americans who lost their jobs to illegal aliens willing to work for lower wages. Nor did it include lost tax collections from those American workers who became unemployed. The study estimated those indirect costs from illegal immigration at an additional $4.3 billion annually.



During the years since that estimate, the illegal alien population is estimated to have roughly doubled, so the estimated fiscal costs also will have at least doubled. Furthermore, the passage of time is accompanied by inflation in the costs of services, e.g., school budgets continue to climb. Therefore, what was estimated to be a cost to the American taxpayer of $33 billion in 1996 today would be at least $70 billion. Similarly, tax collections would have increased — sales taxes at least — so that the net expense to the taxpayer from illegal immigration would currently be at least $45 billion. The indirect fiscal costs would have also increased, especially during a period of already high unemployment, to perhaps and additional $10 billion annually.

1996 Costs Table from the Huddle Study 1



Programs

(billions)



Public Education K-12 $5.85



Public Higher Education $0.71



ESL and Bilingual Education $1.22



Food Stamps $0.85



AFDC $0.50



Housing $0.61



Social Security $3.61



Earned Income Tax Credit $0.68



Medicaid $3.12



Medicare A and B $0.58



Criminal Justice and Corrections $0.76



Local Government $5.00



Other Programs $9.25



Total Costs

$32.74



Less Taxes Paid

$12.59



Net Costs of Direct Services

$20.16



Displacement Costs

$4.28



All Net Costs

$24.44





Other More Recent Estimates

Other estimates have been done on components of the cost of illegal immigration. For example, FAIR estimated in 2003 that the cost of K-12 education for illegal alien children was at least $7.4 billion annually (see Breaking the Piggybank). This would be less than double the about $5.9 billion estimate above, but would be of the same order of magnitude. FAIR’s 2004 report on the medical expenses incurred because of illegal immigration (see The Sinking Lifeboat) shows uncompensated costs in excess of one billion dollars.



The cost of incarceration of illegal aliens in state prisons has also risen rapidly. In fiscal year ’02, the Department of Justice’s State Criminal Alien Assistance Program (SCAAP) distributed $550 million to the states to help defray their expenses, but this was estimated to cover only about one fifth of their outlays. Between FY'99 and FY'02, alien detention increased by 45 percent (from about 69,300 inmate years to over 100,300 inmate years), and that trend is continuing. These expenses do not include the costs of illegal aliens incarcerated in federal prisons, public safety expenditures, detention pending trial, expenses of trial proceedings, interpretation, public defenders, or the incarceration expenses of immigrants for minor offenses that do not meet the standards of the SCAPP reimbursement program. Therefore, it is clear that outlays for Criminal Justice and Corrections costs is today much greater than double the 1996 estimate.



While the cost of outlays for illegal aliens may be shifted by legislation among the levels of government and the private sector, the fact remains that illegal immigration creates an enormous fiscal burden on America and its citizens — a burden that Congress has levied upon us through short-sighted and haphazard immigration policy and succeeding administrations have aggravated by spotty enforcement of the law.



A Call for Action

Americans should demand that Congress and the administration work together to establish control over our borders and the interior of the country so that we have the assurance that aliens, whether immigrants or visitors, are legally present in the country. That objective is of vital importance for the sake of national security as well as for the impact on our tax bills.

Answer 10

We lose FAR more then what we gain,



At least the answer you reffer to had links,

Answer 11

Yes, it profits.

Answer 12

illegal immigrants arent gonna pay that....

Answer 13

ditto said it all....

Answer 14

Of course we make lots of money........

The system may have to pay out some too.....

My guess is that it evens itself out...................

Meanwhile the government while it has this tax revenue in hands......Looks richer......

So in essence a type of money laundering on the part of the USA government is occurring.....



Thanks for the great questions. Please read below to see where I stand on certain issues. Have a nice day.



My question in layman's terms are u a racists or not in regards to illegals? Your defense?

I did not call anyone a bigot I just feel that when we have any type of an opinion towards any given subject, we have reasons for that. If the reason is pure hatred...so be it....everyone is entitled to their opinion.......if you truly feel that you dislike illegals because they are simply illegal and not for their color then that stance will be shown in your answer



























RACISM IN AMERICA TODAY…..GREEN CARDS IMPOSSIBLE TODAY.



There is much Racism in America. It is shameful. I agree that people being here illegal potentially cause a major national security problem. We need to know who resides here on our soil....but the have created the system that virtually makes it impossible to become legal. This system was left as such by our government to exploit and pilfer the people from Mexico.....our governments greed is what allowed the attacks of 911. In essence while trying to keep the North American Indians in their place where the white man still thinks they belong....... They created the perfect atmosphere for terrorist to come on our soil and kill. Possibly if the American Government had done right by our Neighboring Mexican Indians 911 would not have happened. I AM NOT A RACIST I AM A REALIST.















DRUGS … HUG AN ILLEGAL ALIEN TODAY



I am in agreement with many that we must control our borders. It is a national security issue and the drug lords freely pass drugs into the United States. Okay but we have problems on both sides of the "fence". The "fence" will not stop the corruption of US Officials who allow these drugs to be passed. These same officials will have a key to open that "border fence" to admit the drug lords but will not permit the passage of the poor illegal immigrant that came to clean up your buildings instead of blowing them up. Why do so many drugs come into the United States? The answer supply and demand. We need these illegal immigrants to work the jobs that our so drug addicted nation will not fill. WE NEED COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM. We do not need to repair the damaged levy by placing our finger in the hole. We need to repair the entire levy. DON'T let these politicians keep you ignorant....This whole smoke screen/border fence is just a ploy to get them reelected. These same politicians know that we need this "illegal" work force just as much as they need us.....Think.....if it were not true would it have taken them so long to do something about it. NO it wouldn't have. The 911 incident caused us all to think....but did the illegal alien mastermind that event. No, he didn't so why treat him or her as if they did do it. STOP RACISM. HUG AN ILLEGAL ALIEN TODAY

Who cares build the fence. The American public has clamored that they wish for this atrocity to be built. Then once all those billions of dollars are sunk into the building of this shameful wall......there will be no money for mass deportations...You see this is why the government is building this wall... We all know that it will not serve the purpose for which it is built....They didn't even build a levy that could protect New Orleans..... the illegals crossing are just as unpredictable.....Build the fence so they will be able to say later well we don't have the money now for deportations.......Also you will see discounts on ladders on the other side of the border. You just need a ladder to safely scale the wall without a scratch.





LAND STOLEN FROM THE INDIANS

People say that we came as legal ones.....if you want to consider the atrocities committed to the North American Indians as our coming here legal do so......The Indian did not have the concept of owning land.......The saw land as on loan by mother nature. Mother nature owned the land they did not. So when the White Man came requesting to buy land the Indian so much wanted to share all of the bounty of the land with the white man......The white man tricked the Indians into entering into written contracts of land purchase.......lands of hundreds of acres purchased with little in exchange.....was not money.......Beaver pelts, deer antlers....beads...etc were the purchasing items. The Indians not understanding the concept of a man owning land......assumed that they were giving the white man the same rights as they had to hunt fish and camp .... The white man saw the Indian as stupid and dumb and savage and fraudulently acquired his lands..... So don't say we came here as legal.... we came as thieves.



RACISTS AMERICA NEEDS A REALITY SHOW



What Racist America needs today is a reality show. Now if u are not racist don't be offended. I am talking to RACIST. If the shoe does not fit DO NOT PUT IT ON!!! The Americans are spoiled. I am talking about my own race. I am American born. I am Irish German, Cherokee. Considered white. The majority of white people are mutts with the majority of them not even knowing anything about from whence they truly came. The African American & the Hispanics have a more true blood line than "White America" I have strived to educate myself.... we must do so to understand the concept of anything so that we can intelligently assess situations and form opinions..... The majority of the Americans do not care about the plight of others.... they are greedy and spoiled... and continue to claim something of which truly is not theirs. Why do I say this.....You say that we came as legal ones.....if you want to consider the atrocities committed to the North American Indians as our coming here legal do so......The Indian did not have the concept of owning land.......The saw land as on loan by mother nature. Mother nature owned the land they did not. So when the White Man came requesting to buy land the Indian so much wanted to share all of the bounty of the land with the white man......The white man tricked the Indians into entering into written contracts of land purchase.......lands of hundreds of acres purchased with little in exchange.....NO money.......Beaver pelts, deer antlers....beads...etc were the purchasing items. The Indians not understanding the concept of a man owning land......assumed that they were giving the white man the same rights as they had to hunt fish and camp .... The white man saw the Indian as stupid dumb SAVAGES and fraudulently acquired his lands..... So don't say we came here as legal.... we came as thieves. YEA WE NEED A REALITY SHOW SO THAT I CAN SEE MY RACE HUMBLE THEMSELVES... AND CRY.... IN DESPERATION OF HUNGER AND LACK OF COMPASSION I can see at the end of the show when they are called to be picked up........They will say....... Mom, Dad I have made some really good friends over here. They took me in, they clothed me and fed me....They loved me..... Can you possibly bring a bus so that I can invite some of them back to my home with me so that I can begin to show them the same love they have shown me.....AMERICA HUMBLE YOURSELF BEFORE CIRCUMSTANCES FORCE YOU TO BE HUMBLE





The Fence.



Who cares build the fence. The American public has clamored that they wish for this atrocity to be built. Then once all those billions of dollars are sunk into the building of this shameful wall......there will be no money for mass deportations...You see this is why the government is building this wall... We all know that it will not serve the purpose for which it is built....They didn't even build a levy that could protect New Orleans..... the illegals crossing are just as unpredictable.....Build the fence so they will be able to say later well we don't have the money now for deportations.......Also you will see discounts on ladders on the other side of the border. You just need a ladder to safely scale the wall without a scratch.





America on the white Horse



The land of plenty..... And wants to oppress Mexico the impoverished ones for what just for the privilege of being our neighbor... come on get off of the white horse before it falls in a mud hole.













REALITY SHOW SEND AMERICAN TO MEXICO FOR 2 MONTHS.





Yea they need to do this as a reality show. The Americans are spoiled. I am talking about my own race. I am American born. I am Irish German, Cherokee. Considered white. The majority of white people are mutts with the majority of them not even knowing anything about from whence they truly came. I have strived to educate myself.... we must do so to understand the concept of anything so that we can intelligently assess situations..... The majority of the Americans do not care about the plight of others.... they are greedy and spoiled... and continue to claim something of which truly is not theirs. Why do I say this.....You say that we came as legal ones.....if you want to consider the atrocities committed to the North American Indians as our coming here legal do so......The Indian did not have the concept of owning land.......The saw land as on loan by mother nature. Mother nature owned the land they did not. So when the White Man came requesting to buy land the Indian so much wanted to share all of the bounty of the land with the white man......The white man tricked the Indians into entering into written contracts of land purchase.......lands of hundreds of acres purchased with little in exchange.....was not money.......Beaver pelts, deer antlers....beads...etc were the purchasing items. The Indians not understanding the concept of a man owning land......assumed that they were giving the white man the same rights as they had to hunt fish and camp .... The white man saw the Indian as stupid and dumb and fraudulently acquired his lands..... So don't say we came here as legal.... we came as thieves. YEA WE NEED A REALITY SHOW SO THAT I CAN SEE MY RACE HUMBLE THEMSELVES... AND CRY.... IN DESPERATION OF HUNGER AND LACK OF COMPASSION





God and Borders

Question asked by:SealRBorders’s

Can you answer me this???? I've heard MANY of you?

on here say, "God doesn't believe in borders". Oh,YEAH??? Then WHY does God tell the Israelites in Genesis 15:18, " On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abraham, and said, "To your decendants i will give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates." Sounds like BORDERS to me!!!!!!

Genesis 13:15 "And the land that you SEE i will give to you and your offspring forever." How FAR can a person SEE???? NOT VERY!!!! Genesis 17:8 "the whole land of Canaan.....i will give,as an everlasting possession, to you and your decendants after you...." this is ONE country!!!!

Numbers 34:11 "The BOUNDARY will go down from Shepham to Riblah on the east side of Ain and continue along the slopes east of the sea of Kinnereth." Numbers 34:9 "continue to Ziphron and end at Hazar Enan. This will be your BOUNDARY to the north." SEE???? MORE borders!!!!!

"smack" yeah Jesus said to give the less fortunate a helping hand,but he did NOT say to give them everything they are DEMANDING, INCLUDING your country!!!



La Gueta answers:

Hey tell Ms. Biblical Scholaress did he also tell them to build fences, walls etc? I appreciate your question. God also said. "Love not the world neither the things of the world.... for if any man love the world the love of the father is not in him." I think love is mentioned more than land boundaries... and correct me but I think that land, territories would be considered "Worldly possessions" and when God says love not the world would not "LAND" be included as part of the things that we are not to store in our hearts as possessions. Man you just opened such a large can of worms.......







bureaucratic monster IMMIGRATION





As I have mentioned many times before. ICE.... INS.... whatever they call themselves these days needs to be completely torn down and edified with specific departments with specific job details... They must be held accountable for their work ethics. You for example as a law abiding citizen (hopefully) do not have racist reasons for reporting someone does not even know who to report them too.... This bureaucratic monster of a department does not serve the Public in its work... nor does it serve its purpose in granting work permits for those who have applied.... what good are they? They have the attitude that I will get to them when I get to them not just to the people who they are supposed to serve .... But to the USA citizen who in essence supplies them with that paycheck that they do not earn..... Heads up...... Rebuild this monster of a department while building this wall across the border.









Young People Who know nothing



The children on here do not know the difference between EU immigrants, illegal immigrants and asylum seekers?



I have been working together with 6th formers, who study A-level languages. In this context immigration and racism is being discussed. And most kids really haven't got a clue, just some vague opinions based on Sun headlines and preconceptions...



No that is really scary for a long time I have thought that there were a lot of young people at this site with a lot of time on their hands. No dictionary…maybe. They give very short answers often with horrible grammatical errors to debates which warrant much broader answers or explanations….maybe just for the competition in regards to points huh? But at the same time never get best answers from various people. They obviously do not have a clue. You are not alone



ILLEGALS PAY TAXES



I don't wish to offend you but I do wish to inform you..... There is no TAX Free money in regards to the majority of the illegals.... unless they work in cash paying jobs ... like construction for example... Lots of people hide in the construction business for that very reason..... illegals are just working in construction. We have American dead beat dads who work in it too so they get easy money under the table as we call it so as not to pay child support. Most industries pay with payroll checks. If an illegal works in an industry that does pay with payroll checks then the appropriate federal and state taxes are removed. I recently did a spot check on payroll checks from the main industry in my town from 4 different illegal pay stubs..... 2 from poultry and 2 from restaurants. I did an estimate based on those 4 pay stubs in regards to the shifts worked at each one of those industries. I had an estimate of State taxes paid in to my state of $64,000.00. I did not figure up the Federal Taxes but you best believe that they have been raking it in also. Please keep in mind that the county that I live in is not ranked among the largest in my state. I would love to be able to do a State wide survey, but the problem is getting people to trust you not to use their information against them. You may be surprised to also be informed that at least 2 of these people had health insurance for which they paid for & utilized, they also had an additional voluntary $5.00 taken out each week as a donation for United Way Fund. I did no guesstimates on those donations, but just these 2 people alone donate a solid figure of $520.00 @ year which has to be noted as community service. IT WAS A REAL EYE OPENER TO ME. Please understand that the illegal does not file federal income taxes.... he does fall in a low income category and would be eligible to receive most of his tax money paid in as refunds... now do you really think that our government wants to make them legal so they have to give that money back ..... NO, of course not. The fence is going to be a joke. Who cares build the fence. The American public has clamored that they wish for this atrocity to be built. Then once all those billions of dollars are sunk into the building of this shameful wall......there will be no money for mass deportations...You seed this is why the government is building this wall... We all know that it will not serve the purpose for which it is built....They didn't even build a levy that could protect New Orleans..... the illegals crossing are just as unpredictable.....Build the fence so they will be able to say later well we don't have the money now for deportations.......Also you will see discounts on ladders on the other side of the border. You just need a ladder to safely scale the wall without a scratch. .THE POLITICIANS DO NOT WANT TO SEND THE ILLEGAL BACK





The mixing of the Races.



Now statistically you are right that Mexicans have the custom of having large families THE REASON mainly being due to the fact that the majority of Mexico is still practicing Catholisism. The doctrine of this religion states that Birth Control of any form is a sin. I DO NOT FEEL THAT white people will be a minority compared to other minorities. What I mean by this is that the people of the great "USA" have learned to adapt over the years also...... They are an intelligent, proud people. They will not suffer the racism, poverty, discriminations that other "RACES" or cultures have faced upon arrival to this new and wonderful land. I feel that in the longrun the USA will accept graciously anything that we are handed in life's highway. NOW FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR YOU.......Are the Mexicans becoming a "watered down" version of their former selves..... of course....... so as whites have become "watered down" for years. People see me they call me white only because of my skin color.... I am Irish, German, Cherokee...... watered down huh. Ask anyone White has ceased to exist....... This White "RACE" still functions after years and years and endurance of immigration to this country..... we have not become weak because of it...... we have become a stronger 'race' because of it.......... Mexicans were not the first to 'INVADE' US. Also please include in your thoughts that many of these Mexican Men are so "taken" by what they consider the White American Female that many of them are taking them on as wives.... having children with them. Watering down of the race has been ongoing for many years. Now as they marry these women they also begin to leave or alter some of their own customs.......as does the woman alter and change her own customs so that they can live in a level of respect to each and his own. With marriage comes change even for people of the same skin color. NOW THESE CUSTOMS ARE SWIRLED TOGETHER WHICH IN ESSENCE CHANGES THE OVERALL MEANING OF THESE CUSTOMS AND THEY BECOME TOTALLY NEW CUSTOMS.

The Illegals and Low Wages, Chicken $10.00 a lb., no tax break



No the illegals did not create low wage jobs. They have always been here. Furthermore if we raise all of the low paying jobs salaries up to $10.00 an hour you will wipe out middle class America. Who could afford to pay $10.00 a lb for chicken? I don't wish to offend you but I do wish to inform you..... There is no TAX Free money in regards to the majority of the illegals.... unless they work in cash paying jobs ... like construction for example... Lots of people hide in the construction business for that very reason..... illegals are just working in construction. We have American dead beat dads who work in it too so they get easy money under the table as we call it so as not to pay child support. Most industries pay with payroll checks. If an illegal works in an industry that does pay with payroll checks then the appropriate federal and state taxes are removed. I recently did a spot check on payroll checks from the main industry in my town from 4 different illegal pa stubs..... 2 from poultry and 2 from restaurants. I did an estimate based on those 4 pay stubs in regards to the shifts worked at each one of those industries. I had an estimate of State taxes paid in to my state of $64,000.00. I did not figure up the Federal Taxes but you best believe that they have been raking it in also. Please keep in mind that the county that I live in is not ranked among the largest in my state. I would love to be able to do a State wide survey, but the problem is getting people to trust you not to use their information against them. You may be surprised to also be informed that at least 2 of these people had health insurance for which they paid for & utilized, they also had an additional voluntary $5.00 taken out each week as a donation for United Way Fund. I did no guesstimates on those donations, but just these 2 people alone donate a solid figure of $520.00 @ year which has to be noted as community service. IT WAS A REAL EYE OPENER TO ME. Please understand that the illegal does not file federal income taxes.... he does fall in a low income category and would be eligible to receive most of his tax money paid in as refunds... now do you really think that our government wants to make them legal so they have to give that money back ..... NO, of course not. The fence is going to be a joke. Who cares build the fence. The American public has clamored that they wish for this atrocity to be built. Then once all those billions of dollars are sunk into the building of this shameful wall......there will be no money for mass deportations...You see this is why the government is building this wall... We all know that it will not serve the purpose for which it is built....They didn't even build a levy that could protect New Orleans..... the illegals crossing are just as unpredictable.....Build the fence so they will be able to say later well we don't have the money now for deportations.......Also you will see discounts on ladders on the other side of the border. You just need a ladder to safely scale the wall without a scratch. .THE POLITICIANS DO NOT WANT TO SEND THE ILLEGAL BACK



White Racist….. Hispanic Gangs.



I can't even pretend to be an expert on immigration matters but sometimes I do know the answer. I consider myself a humanitarian who loves all color and races. I am "WHITE" American which is only a skin color not a race and often times am ashamed of what America has become. There are good and bad in all races. I just know that I cannot look at skin color to judge if a person is good or bad. I also know that we have problems on both sides of the fence.. For instance the "Whites" in this year of 2006 are still racists... not all.... but a vast majority......... The illegal came & I am highly Pro Immigration but we have some major problems in relation to gang assembly among the children of the Hispanic families that were born here.... why wouldn't we look at "WHITE" children they are killing other children in school.... Sometimes I wonder if it were all worth it for the Hispanic families to lose their children to this culture.