Question:
What are typical returns on EB5 visa investments?
DON D
2011-01-01 22:01:42 UTC
Does anybody know what are typical returns on investments yielded when a person invests in one of the regional centers under uscis? I know it's minimum 500K investment to get the green card but is there anybody that can actually say from experience what can a person expect in return once they invest their money. Thanx
Six answers:
lenrap
2011-01-02 17:29:18 UTC
More details on the EB-5 visa and green card are available from EB-5 Visa Experts where, If you are considering the EB5 visa, you can get a free evaluation of your case by a leading immigration attorney.
John
2015-09-06 11:36:14 UTC
There are two answers to this question depending on whether the investment structure is equity-based or loan-based. The more popular loan-based projects offer returns ranging from 0% 1%. In these projects, the developer is typically paying around 5% interest to the limited partnership or limited liability company wherein investor funds are pooled. However, the regional center or EB-5 management company pockets 4% as their profit from putting the deal together, and the remainder goes to the EB-5 investors. This is entirely fair, by the way, because the regional centers invest substantial amounts of capital (lawyer fees, economist fees, etc.) to put these deals together.
2011-01-04 10:12:09 UTC
Don,

That depends on the structure of the investment. Returns for debt offerings as compared to traditional private equity or venture capital investments are low, typically between 1-5%. Some, such as the current Reg. S Atlantic Yards debt offering that NYCRC is marketing in China, offer no return at all.



Return for foreign nationals who invest in the EB-5 immigrant investor visa are not seen as important as making sure that the investment is able to remove the conditions on the investor's green card. Making sure that the jobs are created as outlined in the I-525 application, the conditions are removed once the I-829 is filled, and the return of principal at term are considered to be much more important than return from the viewpoint of the investor.



In the Asian market, projects offering too high a return (+5%) are seen as being too risky, hence the approach of many Centers to design their offerings to a low rate of return. This also makes the capital available to the project managers and developers attractive while ensuring a large spread for the general partners.



If you invest in a project where the limited partners receive equity in exchange for their contribution, then it is not possible to estimate the eventual return until the liquidity event and the dissolution of the limited partnership. Some equity based projects have made substantial returns for their long-term investors (10%+) when you calculate both the cash flow dividends (interest paid) and the capital gain on sale or transfer of the asset.



The main question that you will need to ask before you can determine your potential return will need to be:



1. Is the offering (EB-5 investment) debt or equity?



If it is a debt offering then you will know your expected return and maturity date, as well as the interim dates and amounts that you will be paid on your principal making the ROE or ROI easy to calculate. If you invest in equity then much will depend on the cash flow the asset produces and the return after expenses, taxes and depreciation and the market value at the time the asset is sold for you to be able to determine your net return.



Many assets can produce only marginal returns during the life of the investment, while producing a substantial capital appreciation at the time of liquidation which would increase your ROI substantially. The main difference between the two investments is that in one (debt) your expected rate of return is known (assuming the debt or loan is repaid on time). With the equity based asset, it is difficult to estimate the final return on long term investments (these EB-5 offerings typically require a time horizon of 5 years or more) because of the many variables involved. Comparisons to existing similar assets should help and those can be done by professional valuation experts.



Other questions that you should consider would be:



2. the time horizon (tenor) of the investment

3. the credit quality of the project managers and entity receiving the funding

4. the asset being built or financed

5. competition from other similar assets or product classes

6. macro and micro risks (ie. how global or local recessions or expansions would affect cash flows or the ability to repay a loan through incremental tax revenues)

7. systematic & non-systematic risks (the ability for the markets to adequately value the asset)

8. time to completion (how long it will take for the asset to be commercially viable & cash producing)

9. scale (how large is the project will affect the liquidity at the time of sale)

10. capital stack (what percentage is EB-5 and what other sources of capital will be financing this asset)

11. access to capital & time line (will the promoters be able to complete the project financing on time?)



To summarize, with the debt (loan) investment your ROI will be easy to calculate and will most likely be in the 1-5% range. With an equity investment, your return will be much harder to calculate and could range from negative to higher than 5%. Good luck!
Yak Rider
2011-01-01 22:48:43 UTC
There is no "typical return." You must be investing RISK CAPITAL in a new or ongoing business that employs American citizens. Note "risk capital." This is not, and cannot, be a passive investment such as real estate, stocks, bonds, etc.... If USCIS does not believe the business carries risk your visa application will be denied.



http://faq.visapro.com/EB5-Green-Card-FAQ2.asp



Who is eligible for EB-5 Investor Green Card?



You may be eligible for EB-5 immigrant visa:





If you establish a new commercial enterprise by:



• Creating an original business



• Purchasing an existing business and simultaneously or subsequently restructuring or reorganizing the business such that a new commercial enterprise results; or



• Expanding an existing business by 140 per cent of the pre-investment number of jobs or net worth, or retaining all existing jobs in a troubled business that has lost 20 per cent of its net worth over the past 12 to 24 months; and





If you have invested, or are actively in the process of investing, in a new commercial enterprise:



• At least $1,000,000, or



• At least $500,000 where the investment is being made in a ‘targeted employment area,’ which is an area that has experienced unemployment of at least 150 per cent of the national average rate or a rural area as designated by OMB; and





If your engagement in a new commercial enterprise will benefit the U.S. economy to:



• Create full-time employment for not fewer than ten qualified individuals; or



Maintain the number of existing employees at no less than the pre-investment level for a period of at least two years, where the capital investment is being made in a ‘troubled business’, which is a business that has been in existence for at least two years and that has lost 20 per cent of its net worth over the past 12 to 24 months
2011-01-02 07:35:15 UTC
In most cases very little if any ... its about buying a green card ..not a great investment
janett
2016-09-14 23:36:27 UTC
Really good question, looking forward to going through the responses


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