Indians Immigrants too?

Question

Native/ˈneɪtɪv/ –adjective. Being the place or environment in which a person was born or a thing came into being: one's native land.

Isn't the term "Native" American incorrect, at least the way we use it. If you stop to think about it, since all humanity is related, the Indians came from somewhere, even if we don't know exactly where and when. they didn't just pop out of a hole in the ground,.
Some people say it was the land bridge and some people think they came across the water, but either way they originated elsewhere then immigrated here, just like every other race to come here, they just got her first
Also if you think about it, this is where I was born,where I came into being, so this is my land of origin, all of which by definition make me a "Native" American.
Do think the government will let me open a casino in my Neighborhood now?

Now lets not turn this into a flame war, I'm saving that for a later question. Just give me your thoughts on my basic premise.

Answer 1

indigenous people of north america did not come from asia. recent dna has proven this. asian dna is not found in us but indigenous dna did move into asia thousands of years ago. archaeological sites have also proven we have been in the americas longer than europeans have been in europe. if we can not be called native to this land, than neither can the europeans be native to theirs.



why the focus and so much effort to try to persuade people that we are not who we claim to be? political motives and guilt are the first 2 reasons that come to mind.



the indigenous nations of the americas are the rightful inhabitants of these continents and have been for over 60,000 years. we are native.



interesting that you say we are not "native americans" but you also say you have the right to that title. that alone shows you have another motive.



eta: so you say.."just becuase it happend a long time ago doesn't change the fact that it happened" and then go on to tell us to shut up about it because it happened a long time ago? umm ok.



people with no conscience rarely feel remorse for anything so no surprise there. you continue to benefit from the theft with no direct involvement and claim innocence but we still live with the consequences and the present day theft of lands and poisoning of our waters on rezervations by corporations who are allowed to by your government. and no...we will not shut up about it. you don't get to tell us what to do anymore. those days are gone. you may have missed the news that tonto is dead.



your "facts" conveniently ignore the most recent findings.



2008 - An international team of geoarchaeologists have discovered footprints in central Mexico that place the presence of early humans in the Americas further back than previously thought: around 40,000 years ago. The discovery helps to settle a long-standing debate as to when humans first came to the Western Hemisphere.



Humans walked America 40,000 years ago

http://www.itwire.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=19484



New Evidence Puts Man In North America 50,000 Years Ago

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041118104010.htm



Evidence of modern man's migration out of the African continent has been documented in Australia and Central Asia at 50,000 years and in Europe at 40,000 years. The fact that humans could have been in North America at or near the same time is expected to spark debate among archaeologists worldwide, raising new questions on the origin and migration of the human species.



you may have to finally admit that native people in north america have been right all along..we come right from here, not asia.



50,000-year-old Americans of Pedra Furada, Brazil

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v362/n6416/pdf/362114a0.pdf



i'm sure it will make little difference in your opinion. but at least other people will see the truth. unless of course its too hard on the ego and the answer is deleted.



so why do you hate native people so much anyway?

Answer 2

I'm white British, and of course I don't dislike West Indian immigrants, or West Indians. Why would I dislike any particular ethnicity like that? The only thing I do dislike is the way the need to be 'politically correct' has gone too far in Britain. And also, when native people are discriminated against over immigrants, because employers are desperate to avoid being accused of racial discrimination... isn't that a type of racial discrimination, too? But they're the government's issues to sort out.

Answer 3

We are not immigrants. We have been here since the beginning of time (really - before recorded history). We have been here in these lands the longest, according to the carbon dating on artifacts found in the Americas - over 60,000. Probably longer.



There isn't any skeletal evidence though, you may say? Many of us burned our dead then, so there is barely any skeletal proof. Humans world wide have been doing that since they learned to harness fire - from Australia to the Americas to Europe to Siberia to Asia to all of Africa. Not to mention natural prairie fires, woodland fires, forest fires, etc., that would have been common places for humans to hunt and live.



How do we all know that the human race did not develop in the Americas and migrate out later like the modern horse or camel? Hmm...there is DNA and artefactual proof of more than one migration OUT of the Americas across Beringia - not IN. This means that there had to be a substantial civilization/population BEFORE the formation of Beringia 12,000 years ago.



Kanien...I couldn't have said it any better myself.

Answer 4

I think maybe they let the Native Americans open the casinos because they didn't immigrate knowingly. They never asked to be part of the USA, like some did, so they get to break some of the USA rules. All the immigrants who came into this country in the last few centuries knew exactly what they were getting into. It also might be a bit of a consolation for nearly being wiped out and pushed around to such extremes.

Answer 5

You are correct sir. All people who are born in America are "native" Americans. Indians are just as much immigrants originally as any white man from Europe. They "immigrated" to what is now America over the Asian/North American land bridge during the last ice age.



Gee ice age. Doesn't that tell everyone who's got a single brain cell left that the cooling and warming cycles on earth have nothing to do with "mans" industry?

Answer 6

They were here first; that makes them the original inhabitants, regardless of what word you want to use for it.



So what if they get to open casinos? Good grief, after all that's been taken from them that seems like very small compensation.

Answer 7

Most Americans are 1/8 Indians, that's enough to qualify for welfare and casino tickets.

Answer 8

yes very correct