Question:
Citizen "border patrols"?
Chug-a-Lug
2007-11-04 20:46:56 UTC
For a while there were a number of organizations made up of private American citizens along the US/Mexican border that were searching out and turning back illegal Mexican immigrants. Are any of these groups still active?

Yes, they were vigilantes, but please don't tell me they got steamrollered and forced to disband.
Nine answers:
truthteller
2007-11-04 20:59:40 UTC
yes they are still active in AZ anyway and the ------- above me has no idea what he's talking about most if not all these groups are now unarmed patrols.



although what he is saying does sound like what Mexico does when they catch someone crossing their borders illegal like.
anonymous
2007-11-05 06:49:06 UTC
"Yes, they were vigilantes." ?????





NO. They ARE NOT vigilantes. Thanks for leaving that one wide open for me to jump on!



They're still active and now are joined by growing political activists groups who, if the truth is ever known, have kept more heat on Congress and state govt's than any other group including any anti-war lobbies.



Did you ever notice that nearly half the Minuteman volunteers are of Latino or Tribal descent? Almost as high a percentage as are in the Border Patrol. They don't want to be associated with the growing failure in the south.



Mexico shoots intruders from Guatemala, often fatally. The United States Border Patrol does not unless their life is threatened, which has been happening often as the sneaks have learned to pick up rocks of late.



Minuteman Volunteers of all colors and heritages more than just Americans, they're American Heroes.





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anonymous
2007-11-05 05:01:49 UTC
Last time I heard, many of these people were putting their personal well being in harms way for several reasons.



In some cases, the folks they were watching crossing the border illegally, were armed and willing to use their arms to have their own way. Both drug runners and those that would run illegal immigrants across possibly.



The USA government was actively being very focused on making sure that American citizens not break Americans laws in terms of apprehending or interdicting with "illegals". They could report such people to the Border Patrol but would put themselves in civil jeapardy if they in any way contacted the illegals, pulled weapons on them or harmed them in any way. Several people were prosecuted for this.



Many of these volunteer patriots would carry weapons apparently to "defend themselves" in the process of watching the border.
anonymous
2007-11-05 19:46:19 UTC
I salute all these citizens 'border patrols'. Unlike Mr. Bush, I believe defending this nation's border is a patriotic deed.



Long live the MinuteMen! Impeach Mr. Bush.
in pain
2007-11-05 05:00:58 UTC
I don't believe they were all vigilantes.

the minute men are still active and gaining more acceptance in the general public...I once considered such groups to be vigilantes, but with the courts stopping the consequences mandated by existing laws to employers that knowingly hire illegals, I am glad for their activism.
gugliamo00
2007-11-05 05:18:00 UTC
While I don't condone killing just anybody. The criminals who would rape our country and its economy because their own government is too stupid to support them and their loads of kids, need to be stopped.



Messytoe may be correct. But some people have tried to stay within the law. They captured illegal aliens who trespassed on their property. The aliens were criminally in this country. They were criminally trespassing. The brain dead courts sided with the criminals and awarded them the property on which they trespassed. In the light of that, it's better not to leave witnesses... don't you think? (1) It prevents their coming back as they're wont to do if deported. (2) It prevents their taking jobs from US citizens. (3) It prevents their further breaking laws by illegally gaining access to benefits paid for by citizens of this country, (4) It eliminates the cost of incarceration, and (5) it removes the consequences imposed on citizens for trying to protect their rights.



In fact, illegal aliens have absolutely no rights in the United States other than to be deported. They are not entitled to a trial. They are not entitled to representation. They are not even entitled to a hearing.



I'm not talking about legal aliens... those who are here on student, work, or other similar visas.



I'm not talking about illegal immigrants... those who, due to the political climate and the persecution of the government in their country are forced to flee or be killed, are forced to skip some of the formalities. These are those who obey the laws in this country, who work to improve their lives, and their newly adopted country and its economy, who pay their taxes, who learn the language, adopt its culture. I agree that these few deserve a short period of amnesty.



I'm naturally talking about legal immigrants... those who have taken all the legal steps to enter this country, who obey its laws, etc.



I'm talking about the criminals who sneak into the country because they know their entry is illegal. They are intentionally breaking the law. I'm talking about the criminals who take payment for work illegally provided to illegally avoid paying taxes. I'm talking ab out the criminals who, because they only accept payment in cash do not have any reported income and who drive to free clinics in their new SUVs and get free medical and dental help paid for by the legal citizens of this country. I'm talking about the illegal aliens who are so lazy (or stupid) that they force schools to teach classes in Spanish because they don't understand English. I'm talking about the thousands who have found their way into the criminal system and who tax-payers are supporting. I'm talking about the criminals who steal from this country and send the money out of the country.

http://immigrationcounters.com/
anonymous
2007-11-05 05:24:11 UTC
Yes they protect our Oklahoma borders, they are called Oklahomas elected politicians
renegade_ndn
2007-11-05 05:12:58 UTC
Here is the site of the Minuteman HQ. http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu66TpC5HCBIAs5dXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE5cGYzZmwwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0RGUjVfMTIyBGwDV1Mx/SIG=11f62t06g/EXP=1194325523/**http%3a//www.minutemanhq.com/



American border patrol:http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu.ZIqC5HMmgAu0ZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE5ZnM1ZGoxBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0RGUjVfMTIyBGwDV1Mx/SIG=11ok5jvu9/EXP=1194326472/**http%3a//www.americanborderpatrol.com/
mestizo caliente
2007-11-05 04:54:17 UTC
they are shooting illegals,, they are killign people, unarmed,is not war they come here with a dream to improve their lives, get money support their families and cheap hand labor, in no other country, they shoot people who crosss their border , lock them up, they actually have killed people, so they are criminals., they dont turn them back, they kill them


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