Question:
Should we treat La Raza and MEChA, in the same manor as we treat the Taliban ?
2006-08-21 21:30:55 UTC
Should La Raza and MEChA members be hunted down and taken prisoner, even if this means entering Mexico to do it ?

or do we need to wait till they execute a attack aginst the U.S.
Eighteen answers:
2006-08-21 21:53:41 UTC
Although The AGENDAS, MOTIVES, And TECHNIQUES

Of The Taliban And Al Quida (Etc.)

Are Much Different Than The Leftist Hispanic

Terrorist Organizations

Their Objectives Are Similar



While Arab / Muslim Extremists

Are Agressively Attacking

Our Population / Citizens

And SYMBOLS Of Our Economy



Latino / Hispanic Extremists

Are Passively Yet Directly Attacking

Our Economy

Our Political System

And Our Territorial Boundaries



It Has Been Proven

That ALL The Factions Discussed In This Thread So Far

Are Attempting To Work Together

To Achieve Their Common Goals







Short Answer

The Groups Operating Within The USA

Should Be Carefully Scrutinized

And Dealt With Accordingly
Hold em Rox
2006-08-22 04:53:11 UTC
I'm not with you on entering Mexico. But I do think they are dangerous organizations....you know how the authorities watch the Nazi groups and the KKK (and groups like them ), well I really hope they are keeping an eye on La Raza and MECHA.....they need to be treated just like all the other radical racist groups !! And to think they actually have big corporations backing them !!! What an insult to American citizens !!

And you know the gov. won't do anything till they do some type of attack.
2006-08-22 14:03:07 UTC
I do find La Raza and MEChA to be a subversive, anti-American organization which needs to be treated as any other communist invader.



Communism used to be known as...duh....communism...





Now it is La Raza and MEChA....and MEChA actually has our government supporting it financially!



So for any of you with a brain..history is repeating itself and we must be aware and proactive in our handling of these dangerous groups.
stealth_n700ms
2006-08-22 07:39:44 UTC
Until La Raza and MECHA become a threat to National Security (in the Secretary of Defense's eyes), we can do nothing till they make that threat clear....either by foriegn relations and/ or physical action.



--OR-- Genocide of any type on their own soil. When this envelope opens up, we may then go in and take care of business. Until then, we can't do **** but flick them off...



--Rob
gokart121
2006-08-22 05:38:46 UTC
How about starting with prohibiting any government fundin for them etc? They're getting monies from somewhere for their stuff, also no more of it in our public schools. American schools for american kids, if Mexico wants to educate their children, have them start building their own damn schools. Write your Congressman today, tell em you want the border with Mexico closed, either that, or learn spanish...
Zorro
2006-08-22 04:42:11 UTC
Well right now is just talk? hope England also is watching this movement and worn as in time to stop it like with the airplanes.
Heinrich Himmler
2006-08-22 04:58:28 UTC
JD serves a good answer.....



Those groups are as good as or worse. We need to focus on what is at stake in this country.
ML
2006-08-22 04:37:45 UTC
they have already invaded but has 1st amendment rights even if they are not here legally.



(have yet to figure out how someone not here legally has legal rights)
richietcfan
2006-08-23 01:30:04 UTC
No, but they are annoying losers. Just like the ACLU.
2006-08-22 04:36:42 UTC
No, they are not a terrorist group. We dont treat the KKK like the Taliban either do we, and they have recorded lynches!
chetahbill
2006-08-22 04:36:09 UTC
I think they already attacked, or at least invaded
2006-08-22 04:37:13 UTC
Oh geez.....While these groups are radical and I do not support them, you can hardly compare them to Taliban or Radical Islam. When do these people bomb or worse, use there children as human shields?
QUE PASA??
2006-08-22 04:36:29 UTC
WILL YOU PERSONALY BE THE FIRST ONE TO GO INTO MEXICO AND TAKE A PRISONER?? JOIN THE ARMED SERVICES AND LETS SEE.
2006-08-22 04:41:51 UTC
Yes , yes and yes .
2006-08-22 04:39:31 UTC
What would Anakin do?
2006-08-23 01:41:54 UTC
yes, they are terrorist groups too
2006-08-22 04:36:10 UTC
who are they never heard of them.
ibelieve
2006-08-22 04:51:39 UTC
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/lin-biao/

Lin Piao considered the Third World to be the equivalent of the "countryside" and First World white countries to be the equivalent of "cities" when writing his manifesto. The invasion and takeover of the U.S. and Europe by illegal aliens and opportunistic "asylum seekers" is the realization of Piao's dream of a Marxist takeover of the West by peasants from the Third World. An MK Ultra-indoctrinated population in the U.S. remains asleep while the people's army from the Third World takes over our nation.



http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/lin-biao/



Long Live the Victory of People's War!



In the enemy-occupied cities and villages, we combined legal with illegal struggle, united the basic masses . . . . and divided and disintegrated the political power of the enemy and his puppets so as to prepare ourselves to attack the enemy from within in co-ordination with operations from without when conditions were ripe.



At the same time, the work of building the revolutionary base areas was a grand rehearsal in preparation for nation-wide victory. In these base areas, we built the Party, ran the organs of state power, built the people's armed forces and set up mass organizations; we engaged in industry and agriculture and operated cultural, educational and all other undertakings necessary for the independent existence of a separate region. Our base areas were in fact a state in miniature. And with the steady expansion of our work in the base areas, our Party established a powerful peoples army, trained cadres for various kinds of work, accumulated experience in many fields and build up both the material and the moral strength that provided favourable conditions for nation-wide victory.



The revolutionary base areas established in the War of Resistance later became the springboards for the People's War of Liberation, in which the Chinese people defeated the Kuomintang reactionaries. In the War of Liberation we continued the policy of first encircling the cities from the countryside and then capturing the cities, and thus won nation-wide victory.

Next: Build a People's Army of a New Type

In 1986, Nicaraguan defector Alberto Suhr related to U.S. reporters what he and other Sandinista cadres had been told by Tomas Borge, the Sandinista interior minister. Borge, a ruthless henchman trained by Castro's DGI, instructed his comrades: "We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or 15 years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they're going to have one thing in mind - cross the border, go into Dallas, go into Houston, go into New Mexico, go into San Diego, and each one has embedded in his mind the idea of killing 10 Americans." When Borge made that boast, he already had a sizeable fifth column of propagandists, foot soldiers, and narco-terrorists operating within the United States. Since then, several million more illegal aliens have entered the U.S., the Communist EZLN "Zapatista" forces in Mexico's Chiapas state have declared war on Mexico's corrupt and bankrupt ruling PRI regime, the Mexican economy has imploded, the drug cartels have taken control over much of Mexico, and the militant "Aztlan" movement has experienced a remarkable resurgence in U.S. Hispanic communities.

'They go as far north as they can'



Faces of Marxist Invaders and Supporters



http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/10/1779577.php

View this 11-minute video of the confrontation, courtesy Colorado Minutemen. It includes introductions of city officials, parts of the Mayor's speech, confrontation of the Mayor by concerned citizens on Denver's sanctuary city policy. Don't miss the segment taken outside where American citizens are told that "You are a guest on this land. We will keep you as a guest until the day we want you out."





http://www.cairco.org/sanctuary/el_centro.html

Chairman Mao and Lin Piao

Ha Ha Ha, America

Quotes from the invaders and their comrades.



http://www.sixthsunrising.com/



White Flight in Georgia



Mexican Hegemony on Border Moves Incrementally North



To illustrate how Lin Piao's Manifesto applies to the present day invasion of America by illegal aliens, listen to the following broadcast. Forward the slider bar on your computer's streaming audio player to the story on day laborers in Virginia. Pay particular notice to antagonistic tone of the invaders toward the rule of law and the concept of sovereignty or nation state. They act and behave in the way Lin Piao would have a liberation army act out against a perceived enemy or occupying oppressor. They see Americans as the illegal occupying demographic and themselves as the liberating people's army.



Immigrants Workers in Court Today (3:48)



Today more than a dozen illegal migrant workers arrested on misdemeanor loitering charges are in court in Northern Virginia.

http://www.fsrn.org/news/20041129_news.html

Great Invasion: Mexico Recovers Its Own"

Excelsior (Mexico City) Columnist Carlos Loret de Mola



Los Angeles, California. This is the second largest Mexican city in the world for the number of our compatriots settled there, and it must have as many Spanish-speakers as Madrid. The Anglo-Saxons are still the most numerous and there are a lot of Negroes, but the numerical advance of Mexicans is astonishing. Ten movie houses at once show the Cantinflas comedy "El Barrendero." On the streets one has the impression of a great Mexican city. "La Opinion," with a circulation of 60,000 copies, is one of three daily newspapers in Spanish in this enormous country. When did the Mexicanization of Los Angeles happen?



It has been a sociological phenomenon of tremendous implications.



A peaceful mass of people, hardworking, carries out slowly and patiently an unstoppable invasion, the most important in human history. You cannot give me a similar example of such a large migratory wave by an ant-like multitude, stubborn, unarmed, and carried on in the face of the most powerful and best-armed nation on earth.



But neither barbed-wire fences, nor aggressive border guards, nor campaigns, nor laws, nor police raids against the undocumented, have stopped this movement of the masses that is unprecedented in any part of the world.



In 1950 they were called "Pachucos" (half-breeds); today they are called "Chicanos." They have marked social and family characteristics, agility for adapting to the environment and for conquering a great region, once primitive and virgin, that belonged to our fatherland, and we lost it. But it seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without the firing of a single shot, nor requiring the least diplomatic action, by means of a steady, spontaneous, and uninterrupted occupation.



These are not assault troops. Nor are they potentates who take over a territory through economic power and purchase of properties. they are a mass of workers, artisans, women, and students who arrive to reinforce the base of the common people and the human virtues of this society in California. Much like them, despised and persecuted, were the humble Christians in the sovereign empire of Rome; but the meek brought down the Caesars and established -- for some 2,000 years now -- their own style of life over those all-powerful enslavers of the ancient world.



There is a great difference in circumstances. Today we perceive as powerful those who control and manage U.S. society; and it seems crazy to dare to believe it, but let's not forget that great social movements, and changes in social structure, were done by populist forces, so long as they knew how to work together.



The United States is the richest and best organized country in the world, within the limitations of its capitalist system. Its industrial power and way of living absorbs immigrants and readily converts them to nationals. But the Mexicans in the southern part of this nation continue to be Mexican and even to impress their personality on their surroundings, in limited proportions and yet every growing.



Usually they take low-paying jobs; nevertheless, they put such industry, will-power, and self-interest into their job efforts -- precisely because of unequal status in a hostile and deprecatory ambience -- that they end up making themselves indispensable.



California society does not dare to suppress them. The efforts of misguided authorities to expel them always end in failure. They (the Chicanos) are a social and physical reality that cannot be uprooted.



The U.S. upper classes in the western states live in increasing splendor. Their apogee of luxury and comfort doubtlessly marks the inevitable beginning of their decadence. The Mexican invasion continues.



Who are they? They are those who have a great capacity to take risks, the more ambitions, those with more character, the strongest from the rural and suburban areas of their4 home country. A human current of natural selection flows out of Mexico and settles down in the United states, where a second selection takes place. those who are selected must meet two tests: that of leaving, with fortitude, their family and society and giving up familiar ways and customs; and then that of having the character to adapt to new working conditions. A human current with these qualitie4s, if it can succeed in maintaining itself united and coherent, will end by winning. It's a question of time.



The territory lost in the 19th century by a Mexico torn by internal strife and under centralist dictatorships led by paranoid chiefs, like Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, seems to be restoring itself through a humble people who go on settling various zones that once were ours on the old maps.



Land, under any concept of possession, ends up in the hands of those who deserve it. All of us Mexicans should prove ourselves worthy of what we have and what we want. The problem is one or organization.



And those humble Mexicans - the braceros, the "wetbacks," the undocumented, teach us with their example of tough, iron-like character and their spirit of great adventure how to overcome a hostile environment. Let us imitate them from within the Mexico that belongs to us.



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Lawmaker Wants 2000 Mile Long Border Fence



The Second Mexican War



The Second Mexican War

By Lawrence Auster

FrontPageMagazine.com | February 17, 2006



The Mexican invasion of the United States began decades ago as a

spontaneous migration of ordinary Mexicans into the U.S. seeking

economic opportunities. It has morphed into a campaign to occupy and

gain power over our country-a project encouraged, abetted, and

organized by the Mexican state and supported by the leading elements

of Mexican society.



It is, in other words, war. War does not have to consist of armed

conflict. War can consist of any hostile course of action undertaken

by one country to weaken, harm, and dominate another country. Mexico

is waging war on the U.S. through mass immigration illegal and legal,

through the assertion of Mexican national claims over the U.S., and

through the subversion of its laws and sovereignty, all having the

common end of bringing the southwestern part of the U.S. under the

control of the expanding Mexican nation, and of increasing Mexico's

political and cultural influence over the U.S. as a whole.



Cultural imperialism



We experience Mexico's assault on our country incrementally-as a

series of mini-crises, each of which calls forth ever-renewed debates

and perhaps some tiny change of policy. Because it has been with us so

long and has become part of the cultural and political air we breathe,

it is hard for us to see the deep logic behind our "immigration

problem." Focused as we are on border incursions, border enforcement,

illegal alien crime, guest worker proposals, changes of government in

Mexico City, and other such transient problems and events-all of them

framed by the media's obfuscation of whether or not illegal

immigration's costs outweigh its benefits and by the maudlin script of

"immigrant rights"-we don't get the Big Picture: that the Mexican

government is promoting and carrying out an attack on the United

States.



Another reason we miss what's happening is that our focus is on the

immigrants as individuals. Thus our leaders talk about illegal

immigrants as "good dads," "hard working folks" seeking to better

their lives and their family's prospects. In fact, this is not about

individual immigrants and their families, legal or illegal. It is

about a great national migration, a nation of people moving into our

nation's land, in order to reproduce on it their own nation and people

and push ours aside.







Thus, in orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state is

representing the desires of the Mexican people as a whole.



What are these desires?



(1) Political revanchism-to regain control of the territories Mexico

lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the

humiliations they feel they have suffered at our hands for the last

century and a half;



(2) Cultural imperialism-to expand the Mexican culture and the Spanish

language into North America; and especially



(3) Economic parasitism-to maintain and increase the flow of billions

of dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at

home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled

Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican political system

cocooned in its status quo.



These motives are shared by the Mexican masses and the elites.

According to a Zogby poll in 2002, 58 percent of the Mexican people

believed the U.S. Southwest belongs to Mexico, and 57 percent believed

that Mexicans have the right to enter the United States without U.S.

permission. Only small minorities disagreed with these propositions.



Meanwhile, for Mexico's opinion shapers, it is simply a truism that

the great northern migration is a reconquista of lands belonging to

Mexico, the righting of a great historic wrong. "A peaceful mass of

people . carries out slowly and patiently an unstoppable invasion, the

most important in human history" [emphasis added], wrote columnist

Carlos Loret de Mola for Mexico City's Excelsior newspaper in 1982.



You cannot give me a similar example of such a large migratory wave by

an ant-like multitude, stubborn, unarmed, and carried on in the face

of the most powerful and best-armed nation on earth.... [The migrant

invasion] seems to be slowly returning [the southwestern United

States] to the jurisdiction of Mexico without the firing of a single

shot, nor requiring the least diplomatic action, by means of a steady,

spontaneous, and uninterrupted occupation.



Similarly, the Mexican writer Elena Poniatowska told the Venezuelan

journal El Imparcial on July 3rd, 2001:



The people of the poor, the lice-ridden and the cucarachas are

advancing in the United States, a country that wants to speak Spanish

because 33.4 million Hispanics impose their culture...Mexico is

recovering the territories ceded to the United States with migratory

tactics...[This phenomenon] fills me with jubilation, because the

Hispanics can have a growing force between Patagonia and Alaska.



The Mexicans, as Poniatowska sees it, have changed from resentful

losers-which was the way Octavio Paz saw them in his famous 1960

study, The Labyrinth of Solitude-into winners. What accounts for this

change? Their expansion northward into the U.S., as the vanguard of a

Hispanic conquest of all of North America-cultural imperialism and

national vengeance combined in one great volkish movement.



Politicians echo the same aggressive sentiments. At an International

Congress of the Spanish Language in Spain in October 2000, Vicente

Fox, soon to become president of Mexico with the support of U.S.

conservatives, spoke of the "millions of Mexicans in the United

States, who in cities such as Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Miami or

San Francisco, inject the vitality of the Spanish language and of

their cultural expression.... To continue speaking Spanish in the

United States is to hacer patria"-to do one's patriotic duty. Fox was

thus describing Mexican immigrants in the U.S., not as people who had

left Mexico and still had some sentimental connections there, as all

immigrants do, but as carriers of the national mission of the Mexican

nation into and inside the United States.



At the same conference, the Mexican novelist Carlos Fuentes said: "In

the face of the silent reconquista of the United States [emphasis

added], we confront a new linguistic phenomenon," by which he meant

that Spanish was conquering English just as it conquered the Aztec

language centuries ago. According to El Siglo, Fuentes received "an

intense ovation."



Government statements and policies



The Mexican invasion thus represents the ultimate self-realization of

the Mexican people as they move onto a larger part of the world

stage-namely the United States-than they have ever occupied before.

But the migration, and the imperialism that celebrates it, do not in

themselves constitute war. What makes this great national movement war

is the Mexican government's statements and actions about it,

particularly with regard to the extraterritorial nature of the Mexican

nation and its claims on the U.S. For years, Mexican presidents have

routinely spoken of a Mexican nation that extends beyond that

country's northern border into American territory. President Ernesto

Zedillo told a 1994 convention of the radical-left Mexican-American

lobbying group, the National Council of La Raza, "You are Mexicans

too, you just live in the United States." One of Fox's cabinet

officers, Juan Hernandez, has declared: "The Mexican population is 100

million in Mexico and 23 million who live in the United States." These

are not off-the-cuff statements, but formal state policy. As Heather

Mac Donald writes in her important article in the Fall 2005 City

Journal:



Mexico's five-year development plan in 1995 announced that the

"Mexican nation extends beyond ... its border"-into the United States.

Accordingly, the government would "strengthen solidarity programs with

the Mexican communities abroad by emphasizing their Mexican roots, and

supporting literacy programs in Spanish and the teaching of the

history, values, and traditions of our country."



Such solidarity not only keeps Mexican-Americans sending remittances

back to the home country, it makes them willing instruments of the

Mexican government. Fox's national security adviser proposed the

mobilization of Mexican-Americans as a tool of Mexican foreign policy,

as reported by Allan Wall. The head of the Presidential Office for

Mexicans Abroad said: "We are betting that the Mexican American

population in the United States ... will think Mexico first."



The Fifth Column



Once the Mexican people have been defined as a nation that transcends

the physical borders of the Republic of Mexico, and once

Mexican-Americans are defined as "Mexicans" who are to be represented

by the Mexican government, claims of "Mexican" sovereignty and rights

can be made on their behalf against the country in which they reside.



One such claim is to deny the authority of American law over them.

Thus President Zedillo in 1997 denounced attempts by the United States

to enforce its immigration laws, insisting that "we will not tolerate

foreign forces dictating laws to Mexicans." [Italics added.] The

"Mexicans" to whom he was referring were, of course, residents and

citizens of the U.S., living under U.S. law. By saying that U.S. law

does not apply to them, Zedillo was denying America's sovereign power

over its own territory. He was saying something that the Mexican elite

as a whole believe: that wherever Mexicans live (particularly the U.S.

Southwest, which many Mexicans see as rightfully theirs) the Mexican

nation has legitimate national interests. From this it follows that

the normal operation of U.S. law on Mexicans living in the U.S.

constitutes an "intolerable" attack on Mexican rights, which in turn

justifies further Mexican aggression against America in the form of

illegal border crossings, interference in the enforcement of U.S.

laws, and just plain government to government obnoxiousness.



Employing this irredentist logic, President Fox refuses to call

undocumented Mexicans in the U.S. "illegals." He told radio host Sean

Hannity in March 2002: "They are not illegals. They are people that

come there to work, to look for a better opportunity." But if people

who have entered the U.S. illegally are not doing something illegal,

then U.S. law itself has no legitimacy, at least over

Mexican-Americans, and any operation of U.S. law upon them is

aggression against the Mexican people.



Once we understand the cultural and national expansiveness that drives

the Mexicans, the rest of their behavior falls into place. Consider

Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge Castañeda's non-negotiable

demands-"It's the whole enchilada or nothing"-that he issued in a

speech in Phoenix, Arizona in 2001. America, said Castañeda (as

recounted by Allan Wall), "had to legalize all Mexican illegal aliens,

loosen its already lax border enforcement, establish a guest worker

program (during an economic downturn) and exempt Mexican immigrants

from U.S. visa quotas!" He also demanded that Mexicans living in the

U.S. receive health care and in-state college tuition. As Castañeda

summed it up in Tijuana a few days later, "We must obtain the greatest

number of rights for the greatest number of Mexicans [i.e. in the

U.S.] in the shortest time possible." What this adds up to, comments

Wall, is basically "the complete surrender of U.S. sovereignty over

immigration policy." And why not? As Castañeda had written in The

Atlantic in 1995: "Some Americans ... dislike immigration, but there

is very little they can do about it."



Hitler pursued Anschluss, the joining together of the Germans in

Austria with the Germans in Germany leading to the official annexation

of Austria to Germany. The softer Mexican equivalent of this concept

is acercamiento. The word means closer or warmer relations, yet it is

also used in the sense of getting Mexican-Americans to act as a

unified bloc to advance Mexico's political interests inside the U.S.,

particularly in increasing immigration and weakening U.S. immigration

law. Thus the Mexican government is using the Mexican U.S. population,

including its radical elements, as a fifth column.



As reported in the November 23, 2002 Houston Post:



Mexico's foreign minister, Jorge Castañeda, said his country would

begin a "bottom-up campaign" to win U.S. public support for a proposal

to legalize 3.5 million undocumented Mexican workers in the United

States. Castañeda said Mexican officials will begin rallying unions,

churches, universities and Mexican communities.... [Castañeda said:]

"We are already giving instructions to our consulates that they begin

propagating militant activities-if you will-in their communities."



La Voz de Aztlan, the radical Mexican-American group that seeks to end

U.S. "occupation" of the Southwest and form a new Mexican nation

there, writes at its website:



One great hope that came out of the Zapatista March was that generated

by the "alliance" that was forged by some of us in the

Chicano/Mexicano Delegation and our brothers and sisters in Mexico.

The delegation met with officials of the Partido Revolucionario

Democratico (PRD) in Mexico City and discussed strategies that will

increase our influence in the United States and further our collective

efforts of "acercamiento."



Mexico's violations of our laws and sovereignty



Let us now consider some of the specific actions by which the Mexican

government is carrying out the strategy outlined above:



- The Mexican government publishes a comic book-style booklet, Guía

del Migrante Mexicano (Guide for the Mexican Migrant), on how to

transgress the U.S. border safely ("Crossing the river can be very

risky, especially if you cross alone and at night ... Heavy clothing

grows heavier when wet and this makes it difficult to swim or float")

and avoid detection once in the U.S.



- As Heather Mac Donald puts it, Mexico backs up these written

instructions with real-world resources for the collective assault on

the border. An elite law enforcement team called Grupo Beta protects

illegal migrants as they sneak into the U.S. from corrupt Mexican

officials and criminals-essentially pitting two types of Mexican

lawlessness against each other. Grupo Beta currently maintains aid

stations for Mexicans crossing the desert. In April 2005, it worked

with Mexican federal and Sonoran state police to help steer illegal

aliens away from Arizona border spots patrolled by Minutemen border

enforcement volunteers-demagogically denounced by President Vicente

Fox as "migrant-hunting groups."



- While the Mexican government sends police to protect illegal border

crossers against criminals, rogue Mexican soldiers protecting drug

smugglers have threatened U.S. Border Patrol agents, and even engaged

in shootouts, as reported in the Washington Times in January 2006.

Rep. Tom Tancredo says the activities of these renegade Mexican troops

in support of drug traffickers amount to a "war" along the U.S.-Mexico

border, and he has urged President Bush to deploy troops there.



- Meanwhile, sheriffs from Hudspeth County, Texas testified before the

House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Investigations this month at a

hearing titled "Armed and Dangerous: Confronting the Problem of Border

Incursions." They spoke of a dramatic increase in alien and drug

smuggling. "The U.S./Mexico border is the weakest link and our

national security is only as good as our weakest link," said one

sheriff. "Our border is under siege." We need to understand that

whether the Mexican government is behind the border incursions or is

merely unable (or unwilling) to stop them, it ultimately doesn't

matter. As I said at the beginning, the Mexican war on America is

supported by all segments of the Mexican society, even, apparently,

the criminals. The situation is thus analogous to Muslim razzias or

raids-irregular attacks short of outright invasion-used to soften a

target country in anticipation of full scale military conquest. The

outlaws and smugglers and the renegade soldiers may not be official

agents of the Mexican government, yet they are serving its purposes by

sowing mayhem along our southern border and demoralizing our

population.



- A major role in Mexico's revanchist war against America is played by

the Mexican consulates in the U.S., reports Mac Donald. Now numbering

47 and increasing rapidly, they serve as the focal point of Mexico's

fifth column. While Mexico's foreign ministry distributes the Guía del

Migrante Mexicano inside Mexico, Mexican consulates, unbelievably,

distribute the guide to Mexican illegals inside the U.S.



- After the U.S. became more concerned about illegal immigration

following the 9/11 attack, the Mexican consulates were ordered to

promote the matricula consular-a card that simply identifies the

holder as a Mexican-as a way for illegals to obtain privileges that

the U.S. usually reserves for legal residents. The consulates started

aggressively lobbying American governmental officials and banks to

accept the matriculas as valid IDs for driver's licenses, checking

accounts, mortgage lending, and other benefits.



- The consulates freely hand out the matricula to anyone who asks, not

demanding proof that the person is legally in the U.S. Here is Mac

Donald's summary of the wildly improper role played by the consulates:

Disseminating information about how to evade a host country's laws is

not typical consular activity. Consulates exist to promote the

commercial interests of their nations abroad and to help nationals if

they have lost passports, gotten robbed, or fallen ill. If a national

gets arrested, consular officials may visit him in jail, to ensure

that his treatment meets minimum human rights standards. Consuls

aren't supposed to connive in breaking a host country's laws or

intervene in its internal affairs.



- As an example of the latter, the Mexican consulates automatically

denounce, as "biased," virtually all law enforcement activities

against Mexican illegals inside the U.S. The Mexican authorities

tolerate deportations of illegals if U.S. officials arrest them at the

border and promptly send them back to the other side-whence they can

try again the next day. But once an illegal is inside the U.S. and

away from the border, he gains untouchable status in the eyes of

Mexican consuls, and any U.S. law enforcement activity against him is

seen as an abuse of his rights.



- The Mexican consulates actively campaign in U.S. elections on

matters affecting illegal aliens. In November 2004, Arizona voters

passed Proposition 200, which reaffirmed existing state law that

requires proof of citizenship in order to vote and to receive welfare

benefits. The Mexican consul general in Phoenix sent out press

releases urging Hispanics to vote against it. After the law passed,

Mexico's foreign minister threatened to bring suit in international

tribunals for this supposedly egregious human rights violation, and

the Phoenix consulate supported the Mexican-American Legal Defense and

Education Fund's federal lawsuit against the proposition.



- The consulates also help spread Mexican culture. We are not speaking

here of the traditional activity of embassies and consulates in

representing their country's culture in a friendly and educational way

to the host country; we are speaking of consulates acting as agents of

the Mexican state's imperialistic agenda. Each of Mexico's consulates

in the U.S. has a mandate to introduce Mexican textbooks (that's

Mexican textbooks) into U.S. schools with significant Hispanic

populations. The Mexican consulate in Los Angeles bestowed nearly

100,000 textbooks on 1,500 schools in the Los Angeles Unified School

District this year alone.



- It has also been proposed that Mexicans in the U.S. vote in Mexican

elections in designated electoral districts in the United States.

Under this proposal, California, for example, might have seats in the

Mexican Congress, specifically representing Mexicans residing in that

state. The governing PAN party of President Fox has opposed this idea,

not out of respect for U.S. sovereignty, but out of fear that most

Mexicans in the U.S. would vote against the PAN. Meanwhile, another of

Mexico's three major parties, the leftist PRD, urges the designation

of the entire United States as the sixth Mexican electoral district.



The follies of the victors



Throughout this article, I have spoken of Mexico's revanchist campaign

against the U.S. as though the Mexicans were carrying it out

completely against our will. But as we are bitterly aware, this is not

at all the case. Something has happened in America over the last 40

years that has not only opened us to the Mexican invasion, but has

even invited it. From the refusal of many American cities to cooperate

with the INS, to President Bush's celebration of Mexican illegal

aliens as the carriers of family values, to the Democratic Party's

insistence that all Mexican illegals in the U.S. be given instant

amnesty and U.S. citizenship, it seems that America itself wants the

Mexicans to invade and gain power in our country. Since we (or rather,

some of us) have invited the Mexican invasion, does this mean we (or

rather the rest of us) have no right oppose it?



In the first chapter of his history of the Second World War, entitled

"The Follies of the Victors," Winston Churchill wrote that the

triumphant Western allies after the First World War made two mistakes,

which in combination were fatal. First, they gave the defeated Germans

the motive for revenge, by imposing terribly harsh penalties on them,

and second-insanely-they gave them the opportunity for revenge, by

failing to enforce the surrender terms when Hitler began to violate

them in the 1930s. Yet the fact that the victors' inexcusable follies

enabled Germany to initiate a devastating war against Europe did not

change the fact that Germany had initiated the war and had to be

beaten. In the same way, by wresting vast territories from Mexico in

1848 we gave the Mexicans the motive for revenge, and then, 120 years

later, we insanely gave them the opportunity, by letting Mexicans

immigrate en masse into the very lands that our ancestors had taken

from theirs, and also by adopting a view of ourselves as a guilty

nation deserving of being overrun by cultural aliens.



We gave them the opportunity, they took it, and now it is they who are

dictating terms to us.



To quote again from Jorge Castañeda's 1995 Atlantic article:



Some Americans-undoubtedly more than before-dislike immigration, but

there is very little they can do about it, and the consequences of

trying to stop immigration would also certainly be more pernicious

than any conceivable advantage. The United States should count its

blessings: it has dodged instability on its borders since the Mexican

Revolution, now nearly a century ago. The warnings from Mexico are

loud and clear; this time it might be a good idea to heed them.



Because the U.S. has been silent and passive, Castañeda, in the manner

of all bullies and conquistadors, tells us to heed Mexico. The time is

long since passed for us to reverse this drama, and make Mexico heed

the United States. But for us to do this, we must recognize that the

Mexicans are not coming here merely as individuals seeking economic

opportunities, but as a nation, expressing their national identity and

collective will. Even more important, we must revive our own largely

forgotten and forbidden sense that we ourselves are a nation, not just

a bunch of consumers and bearers of individual rights, and have the

right to defend our nation as a nation.



Lawrence Auster is the author of Erasing America: The Politics of the

Borderless Nation. He offers a traditionalist conservative perspective

at his weblog, View from the Right.



The Fifth Column



Once the Mexican people have been defined as a nation that transcends

the physical borders of the Republic of Mexico, and once

Mexican-Americans are defined as "Mexicans" who are to be represented

by the Mexican government, claims of "Mexican" sovereignty and rights

can be made on their behalf against the country in which they reside.



One such claim is to deny the authority of American law over them.

Thus President Zedillo in 1997 denounced attempts by the United States

to enforce its immigration laws, insisting that "we will not tolerate

foreign forces dictating laws to Mexicans." [Italics added.] The

"Mexicans" to whom he was referring were, of course, residents and

citizens of the U.S., living under U.S. law. By saying that U.S. law

does not apply to them, Zedillo was denying America's sovereign power

over its own territory. He was saying something that the Mexican elite

as a whole believe: that wherever Mexicans live (particularly the U.S.

Southwest, which many Mexicans see as rightfully theirs) the Mexican

nation has legitimate national interests. From this it follows that

the normal operation of U.S. law on Mexicans living in the U.S.

constitutes an "intolerable" attack on Mexican rights, which in turn

justifies further Mexican aggression against America in the form of

illegal border crossings, interference in the enforcement of U.S.

laws, and just plain government to government obnoxiousness.



Employing this irredentist logic, President Fox refuses to call

undocumented Mexicans in the U.S. "illegals." He told radio host Sean

Hannity in March 2002: "They are not illegals. They are people that

come there to work, to look for a better opportunity." But if people

who have entered the U.S. illegally are not doing something illegal,

then U.S. law itself has no legitimacy, at least over

Mexican-Americans, and any operation of U.S. law upon them is

aggression against the Mexican people.



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